Some Notes on Development
May 18, 2013 17:45:06 GMT -5 by Auburn
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Post by Auburn on May 18, 2013 17:45:06 GMT -5
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Pre: My knowledge is definitely incomplete but I'd like to share with you what I have learned up to this point about life, people, and psychology. This is a rough attempt at better understanding what constitutes mastery of psychic potential, as I presently understand it, and my experience of people who have and haven't come to it...
TiNe - There is a purity and sense of specialness in one's ego only identifying with one's native process. One feels more contrasted. More of them and less of others. And this is an attractive mindset to stay within. A Ti-lead such as TiNe may be reluctant to explore the avenues of Fe, or even Ne and Si, especially if they've known people who represent those aspects. The ego, the sense of Identity comes about via contrast. By definition, a definition requires that
things be and not be a certain attribute or sets of attributes. This division and contrast is what creates a strong sense of self -- the ego is more comfortable when the divide between itself and the world is strong, and this is especially true for subjective types (i).
The dilemma of integrating Fe into Ti
Integrating Fe into the ego feels, to some extent, a betrayal of the self. It feels like a diluting of one's innate secrecy, objectivity, invisibility and silence. Of motiveless, motionless existence. But it was a part of me all along. I was falsely dividing parts of my psyche from the rest of me, in order to perpetuate a 'concept of self' I held that didn't include those elements. It was both untrue and contrary to my ultimate aim of knowing reality as it is -- which includes my biological and mental form. It also causes one's mind to be divided, as it was all along but now both arguments/extremes come from you.
From one angle, the TiNe may feel completely uninterested in changing the world or interacting with humans, but from another s/he may be very paranoid about being accepted in humanity and being an important contributor of the tribe. Self-guilt may be common in TiNe, but the guilt my not be enough to actually force him/her to take action. Instead the impulse may be to rationalize the guilt away. But because of this strong self-consciousness, and because TiNe are primarily inactive and action is deliberate, when they start to integrate Ti with Fe, and apply social consideration they can become exceptional psychoanalysts.
This is because all of the obsession of their Ti may be directed to their polarity, for the aim of both understanding the social dynamics at play and being able to move within them. The TiNe may treat this endeavor with the same level of passion they treat a scientific inquiry, or perhaps more due to the added emotional connection being formed. There is no definite timeline of when this happens in TiNe. It may happen in early childhood in which case the TiNe may consider themselves a very emotionally aware and socially conscious individual -- despite operating primarily off of dispassionate reactive analysis.
The dilemma of integrating Si into Ti + Ne
But TiNe who contrast themselves from their Fe, as well as Si, rely too heavily on the cycle of Ti-Ne. As such, as much as they desire to come to truth the concepts they arrive to are mostly only theoretically or hypothetically true. They will run a finite set of data through dispassionate deduction and arrive at the principles that hold true within the limited data set. The issue is not in the deduction being incorrect, but the deduction being only correct within the provided data-set. TiNe don't commonly deduce incorrectly, but their deductions are of little use in the world since they're limited in scope. This typically doesn't bother some TiNe though, since real world application is not their main concern anyhow.
But to those TiNe I'd pose the question - what logical merit do your deductions have, if a thousand different data-sets could have produced widely varied principles? How are your principles universal or truly correct? You must acknowledge the principle that if different data could generate different deductions then the more data one possesses, the more fundamental the principles are which can be extracted, and the absolute principles as well as particulars can't be known without knowledge of the whole universe (and whatever is outside of it). Because true understanding requires all variables involved; all contexts. The logical conclusion is that Ti can only be as accurate as the information Ne/Si sends to it, and that requires both Ne and Si information. Exploring reality firsthand and gathering data is challenging, I know, but do it for science!
~~
My Fe would not have me use myself as an example, <.<
For want of not appearing presumptuous, but my Ti can confirm I'm not the worse example of what one decently-integrated TiNe may be like. As an examples is the capacity to integrate factual data (i.e. visual reading) with abstract data, and form calculated deductions based on both -- rather than only forming theoretically valid ideas. As well as be able to articulate ideas semi-fluidly and present them in a form comprehensible to others. However, I'm nowhere near done growing..
I believe mastery for the TiNe would involve a calculated creativity, a meticulous and critical logic, a historian element, and the element of a culture builder-- a culture where truth is reverenced and a mutual understanding resonates across all people within it.
Pre: My knowledge is definitely incomplete but I'd like to share with you what I have learned up to this point about life, people, and psychology. This is a rough attempt at better understanding what constitutes mastery of psychic potential, as I presently understand it, and my experience of people who have and haven't come to it...
TiNe - There is a purity and sense of specialness in one's ego only identifying with one's native process. One feels more contrasted. More of them and less of others. And this is an attractive mindset to stay within. A Ti-lead such as TiNe may be reluctant to explore the avenues of Fe, or even Ne and Si, especially if they've known people who represent those aspects. The ego, the sense of Identity comes about via contrast. By definition, a definition requires that
things be and not be a certain attribute or sets of attributes. This division and contrast is what creates a strong sense of self -- the ego is more comfortable when the divide between itself and the world is strong, and this is especially true for subjective types (i).
The dilemma of integrating Fe into Ti
Integrating Fe into the ego feels, to some extent, a betrayal of the self. It feels like a diluting of one's innate secrecy, objectivity, invisibility and silence. Of motiveless, motionless existence. But it was a part of me all along. I was falsely dividing parts of my psyche from the rest of me, in order to perpetuate a 'concept of self' I held that didn't include those elements. It was both untrue and contrary to my ultimate aim of knowing reality as it is -- which includes my biological and mental form. It also causes one's mind to be divided, as it was all along but now both arguments/extremes come from you.
From one angle, the TiNe may feel completely uninterested in changing the world or interacting with humans, but from another s/he may be very paranoid about being accepted in humanity and being an important contributor of the tribe. Self-guilt may be common in TiNe, but the guilt my not be enough to actually force him/her to take action. Instead the impulse may be to rationalize the guilt away. But because of this strong self-consciousness, and because TiNe are primarily inactive and action is deliberate, when they start to integrate Ti with Fe, and apply social consideration they can become exceptional psychoanalysts.
This is because all of the obsession of their Ti may be directed to their polarity, for the aim of both understanding the social dynamics at play and being able to move within them. The TiNe may treat this endeavor with the same level of passion they treat a scientific inquiry, or perhaps more due to the added emotional connection being formed. There is no definite timeline of when this happens in TiNe. It may happen in early childhood in which case the TiNe may consider themselves a very emotionally aware and socially conscious individual -- despite operating primarily off of dispassionate reactive analysis.
The dilemma of integrating Si into Ti + Ne
But TiNe who contrast themselves from their Fe, as well as Si, rely too heavily on the cycle of Ti-Ne. As such, as much as they desire to come to truth the concepts they arrive to are mostly only theoretically or hypothetically true. They will run a finite set of data through dispassionate deduction and arrive at the principles that hold true within the limited data set. The issue is not in the deduction being incorrect, but the deduction being only correct within the provided data-set. TiNe don't commonly deduce incorrectly, but their deductions are of little use in the world since they're limited in scope. This typically doesn't bother some TiNe though, since real world application is not their main concern anyhow.
But to those TiNe I'd pose the question - what logical merit do your deductions have, if a thousand different data-sets could have produced widely varied principles? How are your principles universal or truly correct? You must acknowledge the principle that if different data could generate different deductions then the more data one possesses, the more fundamental the principles are which can be extracted, and the absolute principles as well as particulars can't be known without knowledge of the whole universe (and whatever is outside of it). Because true understanding requires all variables involved; all contexts. The logical conclusion is that Ti can only be as accurate as the information Ne/Si sends to it, and that requires both Ne and Si information. Exploring reality firsthand and gathering data is challenging, I know, but do it for science!
~~
My Fe would not have me use myself as an example, <.<
For want of not appearing presumptuous, but my Ti can confirm I'm not the worse example of what one decently-integrated TiNe may be like. As an examples is the capacity to integrate factual data (i.e. visual reading) with abstract data, and form calculated deductions based on both -- rather than only forming theoretically valid ideas. As well as be able to articulate ideas semi-fluidly and present them in a form comprehensible to others. However, I'm nowhere near done growing..
I believe mastery for the TiNe would involve a calculated creativity, a meticulous and critical logic, a historian element, and the element of a culture builder-- a culture where truth is reverenced and a mutual understanding resonates across all people within it.