Post by champagne_dad on Dec 29, 2015 0:36:26 GMT -5
I hate to inturrupt the Ne hype but I have a question pertaining to the sort of relatable question that concerns this thread.
Although this may come off as personal, I was wondering if its possible for Ne leads or types who have Ne to go through a sort of… exaustion of ideas (if that makes sense? The sort of experience akin to Mario Kart where you rev up your engingine at the beginning of the race to the point where it implodes)? And then you end up accomplishing nothig..
I can certainly attest to this, as sometimes my mind can feel like its going on overdrive if I am internally dealing with alot of thoughts and feelings. I can have an abundance of ideas executed in my head but the amount alone can end up hindering my progress, mostly due to me second guessing and scrutinizing every single possibility!
It can get very frustrating, especially if Im working on essays and projects, or if Im even trying to plan my day out. I suppose this is why I also have a rather persistant procrastination problem…
Also, I second the motion of more variety of emojis!
Last Edit: Dec 29, 2015 3:29:23 GMT -5 by champagne_dad
Post by ayoungspirit on Feb 22, 2016 10:44:47 GMT -5
Pardon my intrusion, but it happens that I caught an interesting French reportage which followed three "scatterbrain" people, two middle-aged men and a little girl, the three of them appearing to be deltas with prominent Fi and Ne. In fact, the two men were most certainly FiNe, but since this is quite a digression, it may be of better use here. Beside, I do not know how long the replay will be available, or if it even be available in your respective countries. In any event, there is not subtitle, so I hope you will get something of it.
Ultimately, here are some recurring points of the reportage : - lack of attention seems to be alleviated in personal activities or during serious crisis - it is perceived as somewhat of a inborn fatality, sometimes causing depression, and thus benefiting from a ADHD diagnostic - on the other hand, it allows for optimism, insouciance, imagination and can even give opportunity to humor and charm
Last Edit: Feb 24, 2016 14:01:10 GMT -5 by ayoungspirit
Pardon my intrusion, but it happens that I caught an interesting French reportage which followed three "scatterbrain" people, two middle-aged men and a little girl, the three of them appearing to be deltas with prominent Fi and Ne. In fact, the two men were most certainly FiNe, but since this is quite a digression, it may be of better use here. Beside, I do not know how long the replay will be available, or if it even be available in your respective countries. In any event, there is not subtitle, so I hope you will get something of it.
Ultimately, here are some recurring points of the reportage : - lack of attention seems to be alleviated in personal activities or during serious crisis - it is perceived as somewhat of a inborn fatality, sometimes causing depression, and thus benefiting from a ADHD diagnostic - on the other hand, it allows for optimism, insouciance, imagination and can even give opportunity to humor and charm
The video isn't there anymore, I guess. I am undergoing the process of getting diagnosed with Adult AD/HD (inattentive type primarily as I have little to no hyperactivity symptoms). A psychotherapist who specializes in it told me she is completely certain I have it and sent me to a neurologist for a formal diagnosis and possible treatment through medication which is likely to happen this coming month.
As I understand it, it's not that scattered attention is alleviated in personal activities/serious crisis per se. Rather, the AD/HD brain is very under-aroused and relies on only intrinsic interest and adrenaline to focus on a task/subject for a sustained period. So you have very easy focus or hyper-focus when the thing focused on is deeply interesting to you but then you have an impossible time staying focused otherwise. That is, until the pressure of a looming deadline or the fear of other negative consequences of not doing something spikes your adrenaline into action at the last possible minute. Then you can focus like a machine.
Apparently, other people without it, normal or neurotypical people, have a middle path between the two motivational poles of intrinsic attractiveness/pleasure in the subject and fear/pressure/adrenaline fired by anticipation of negative consequences for inaction. They can usually get themselves to focus on uninteresting tasks and subjects if they feel they are important or need to be done. The understanding is that their brains produce adequate dopamine to enable this kind of tolerance/low-level pleasantness in tasks that don't hold a lot of interest for the person. AD/HD brains don't do this as there's some disconnect hypothesized to prevent processing of adequate dopamine. So tasks that are not interesting to the AD/HD person are not rewarded by the processing of any dopamine and remain highly unpleasant to the person. Naturally, spaciness, procrastination, lateness, disorganization, losing things etc follow. Things like filling paperwork, filing, house-chores, very detailed or repetitive stuff or forcing the listening of uninteresting lectures are highly unpleasant especially at the beginning. This all on a spectrum and everyone with AD/HD is not the same.
I actually wanted to write a post on this sometime ago after I learnt so much but didn't. I've struggled with these issues my entire life and was called all sorts of unpleasant names by teachers/superiors who thought I was just being lazy, spacey and careless on purpose. Yes, a diagnosis is relieving not only because understanding helps self-acceptance but the possibility of medication that can help one function as normally as possible is like being promised a miracle. In high school, my grades dropped like lead very early because the work depended more and more on self-structure and in addition I was in a boarding school in my poor country that required us to do a lot of physical chores. It was only as the national exam that comes at the end of high school in my country approached that I managed to miraculously get myself to study and do well in literally the last few months after four years of very bad performance, shocking my teachers and relieved family who had given up. It wouldve been great if they and I had known there may be something else there besides the presumed character deficiencies. I see it even more in relatives on one parent's side and feel lots of compassion for them.
