Star Wars Theforceawakens cast

Just saw it last night too =D

At a quick glance I got the same impression from the first 3. (haven't looked at the other guys)

ayoungspirit
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@morsecode I also thought that Daisy Ridley is really similar to Keira Knightley! There was a thing I found a bit "odd" in her performance, the fact that she made many facial expressions that seemed exaggerated or overly dramatic. But while I was watching the movie, I remembered that I had the same impression with Keira Knightley in "A Dangerous Method." Extremely similar way of expressing emotion and feelings on screen, even in the scenes of emotional distress. It's just the way they are, even if it might appear exaggerated, it's the manic expression of the SeFi!

Zweilous hi!
Mmmh... I checked the thread dedicated to your friend but the video is currently private, so I can't make a comparison between the two, but anyway:
About her having Si-Ne: after some time reading I realized that the actual shape of the eyebrows doesn't say much many times, there are many Si-Ne users who have a naturally V shaped eyebrow, and Se-Ni users who have horizontal or A shaped eyebrows. What matters in the most, in the end, is not the fixed state but the state of motion.
For example, as you can see in this picture, her scowl draws its contraction almost solely on the center of the eyebrows just over the nose. the sides are not particularly affected by the movement. Also, the upper eyelid stays in a relaxed and lowered position, compared to the lower eyelid that remains in a contracted position:

Looking at the video, you can also see how her eyes don't really have that mad-horse thing of high Ne, or the scattered brushing of Si, but they tend to stay either on the upper part of her eyes (Se), on the lower-diagonal side (Ni, in the video is usually the left side), or they draw an imaginary circle all around (soon I hope to give timestamps for these things). Also, she often tilts her head, keeping it in that position, and more than once her head follows the direction of the eyes, which would indicate P lead.
About Fi vs Fe, there are many things that make me see Fi usage: there is a lingering tension around her nose, tension that never recedes. Even in the moments that might appear as fast neutralizations (2:09) in reality, looking closely, you see how that tension around the nose doesn't recede, even if the smile dissipates quickly.
Also, observe her hands: the fingers are spread rigidly, the movements are snippy and fast, and the the wrists are not fluid but highly mechanical. There is no clear warm emphasis and synch in her gestures connected to what she says.

So, yes. These are briefly the reasons why I think she is SeFi. I can write moar if you want.

Zweilous - Hi!

I think your correlation of Daisy to your friend Savanna is spot on. But I seem to see both of them as SeFi...

This'll take explaining a lot of things but I'll give it a try. Maybe starting with Fe.

• The timing of your friend's laughter
  
• The quality of the laughter
  
• The appearance of the laugh on the face

Timing: Fe smiles and laughs are "on-beat". What that means is that their timing and execution is congruent with the general commentary, rather than sporadic. Inversely, Fi (all other things being equal) will burst out if/when they find something worth the laugh. Generally, Fi does less courtesy laughs, and will also laugh excessively at times depending on how they feel about the joke/moment. In your friend, I see that her laughs happen intermediately and with a few seconds of delay from the 'punch' (per se). She waits for it to really hit her.

Quality: And when she does laugh, it's what I call a "giddy giggle". It's overwhelming/consuming, in the sense that the body begins to radiate a very 'free' type of energy; unbridled, uncontrolled and pure. It lasts as long as it needs to and there is no sense that the smile is either being forced nor is it being 'clipped/curtailed'. Her body swells up from the laughter, but at the same time she remains contained. She's not playing it up or using it to shepherd or translate that feeling to others.

For example, often times the FeSi's laughter will have a "haha, did you see that? did you get that? that was funny wasn't it?" undertone to it. It's subtle but this vibe is emitted through things like looking around to see who is laughing, whether people are laughing with them, and this ultimately controls the duration and amplitude of how they choose to laugh - even if the laugh was authentic to begin with.

Appearance: I'm not sure how to quantify this one except to say that it's quite a clear Fi snarl, but I'll try! So first there is what I call a "breaking of the cheeks". That's when the vertical tension of the muscles by the nose lift the whole smile upward and cause it to almost reach the eyes. If it's ok with you, I'm borrowing a screenshot of your friend for this post:





Si vs Se: Psychologically as well as visually, I see a pretty straightforward Se from Savanna. Visually, when Si is in such a high role, we would see a great deal of concentrated scowling where the outer edges of the eyebrow droop down to cover the edges of the eyes. The center of the eyebrow would be raised up, especially when doing memory recall (like this Si+Fe user)... but instead, in those moments they mostly go into Pe toggling. At a few spots we also see the 'manic expression' of the SeFi:


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Generally her eyes are pretty sharp (the obicularis muscle is taut around the eye), and her upper eyelid stays rested over her eyes even when the eyebrows are elevated. Here we also see the Fi tension concentrated at the nose.

Psychologically, her responses follow a very probabilistic approach. Irregular questions or situations were a surprise... and she struggled for a bit to come up with a linear/realistic response to these odd suggestions. Inversely, Si-Ne would be more prone to run with the initial premise (without such a lolwut? reaction ) and dabble with the idea using their Ne.

One thing I should note is that she has seelie Fi, which is very agreeable, socially receptive and positive. This can be confused as 'adaptive Fe' because of the way Fe is described as approachable/social in other definitions (they have an odd rep of being super nice, which isn't really too true). Fi can be this friendly too, and seelie Fi's can actually be the most all-around-nice people.

Lack of Yang: FeSi's are Je types, which are the most yang of all personalities. In her, there's quite a striking lack of directive. She doesn't seem like she is asserting a persona or atmosphere (as is typical of FeSi's) nor does she seem particularly rigid in body. Instead she is quite receptive, loose-body, and overall more freely energetic in that Pe-lead way.

I have to get back to work before I get nothing done today, heh, sorry for the massive post! Feel free to ask anything...

Boyega might be the greatest example of FeNi I've ever come across.   Every time he speaks, it's Fe smile and Se eyebrows.  He does a lot of that Fe emotionally redirecting head movement thing.  I doubt anyone would debate him being an FeNi.




Daisy Ridley's entire mouth is without a doubt the most Fi mouth example of all time. It's so Fi that I'd originally typed her as FiSe, but I won't argue against SeFi. Considering the dynamic she has with Boyega, and I think SeFi is actually most likely. The thing that makes her such a good example of Fi is that classic pull to the center of her mouth up toward her nose, along with that 'circular' effect, no matter how she opens her mouth. She's become my postergirl for Fi mouth.



Oscar Isaac is definitely some manner of Ne/Si + Fi/Te.  Watch his mouth.  While it's 'tight', he's spreading in the middle rather than pulling to the sides in that Fe "V" that pushes up from the chin.  He also does a LOT of that Te nodding AT the listener to effectively force the concept into their head.



Here's some of those Fi+Si eyebrows.



I'm going to go with FiNe for him.  He seems too warm for SiTe or TeSi, and too 'introverted' for NeFi.  I can see how people are mistyping him as NiFe, as INFJ and INFP mistypes are also common.  I think his dark eyes make it difficult to see that he's doing the Si floating thing most of the time, rather than an Se lock.  Also, while he appears to drift and lock, pay close attention, and you'll notice that his drifting is actually Ne wandering.  His eyes go all over the place, actively scanning, especially upward.  Ni/Se almost never does that - preferring instead to drift down and to the side, and usually to the same place.


Adam Driver is a very clear Ti dom. Ti puppeteer hands.  Neutral expression.  His Ti is obvious, but there seems to be some debate over his auxiliary function.  He appears to do Si eyebrows, but he does Ni/Se eye drifts and locks.  However, he seems to do the Se arch a bit in these gifs.  The first one seems to start at Se then shift to Si.



I'm going to make an assessment here that might get me in trouble, but I think he's got Asperger's.  His left side appears to be Se, while his right side appears to be Si.  Cerebral scans on Aspies appear to exhibit a dual processing pattern, Ni in one hemisphere and Si in the other.  It looks like he's doing this here. 


Domhnall Gleeson is a painfully clear SiTe.  Lots of Te choppy arm movements and 'push' head nods, combined with Si eyebrows and Fi mouth.  He also has the floating Si eyes.