Split: Sarcastic Jokes

Here:

cognitivetype.boards.net/thread/115/instruction-ermy-full-metal-jacket

I dared to question my type again (big mistake), and was quickly corrected by you with some example from Dr.House.

@mv - I'm sorry if it came across that way. It's no secret on this forum that we're all learning including Alerith & I, and we all get a bit confused from time to time. There is no "authority" on this matter that you have to be afraid of. That's because, like science, we're exploring an actual phenomenon that is bigger than any one person's opinion.
It is possible you were mistyped, ...in which case I simply showed more support for my opinion,
which is the only reasonable response to have. I didn't shut you down, I presented more data/perspective and that's all.


edit: It seems we've gotten on your Fi's bad side somehow...
If you'd like to argue our methods being unjust, flawed, etc, that can be done more civilly in another thread. But please don't spread venom around?

 I must say this is exactly the opposite experience I had here when I was VRead. They initially thought I was SeFi and they changed their minds as I gave them more evidence and info. And from I vividly recall from your experince as being VRead on this forum, they typed your correctly right away - they said you were the exact type you thought you were. And if what you said is due to something else that happened on the forum, your are not 'solving' it this way: at the wrong thread and at the wrong time (which really looks like venon  - or at the least, childish behavior lacking vision of implications to others, centered entirely/solely on yourself). I have been watching all the VRs that happen here and there is absolutely no evidence/data or rational/logical base to back up what you said. Your comment was vividly motivated by subjective shadow aspects of your psyche that I highly advise you to investigate - it will make your life sweeter, easier, lighter and free from sad and obscure so-called "sarcastic jokes".

And what else on this forum can possibly be a reason of my "venomous" "sarcastic joke" that leads me to question their typing method. Where does that "questioning their typing method" comes from? I do not see anything in my comment to Calla that suggests that I question their typing method. In fact, I do quite the opposite of that. I suggest her to stop "resisting" it...which in turn means that "you should accept what they type you as". It is a stance of total agreement with the people who developed this typing method. Not an act of defiance. I can't even think of any "possibility" of something like that even happening.

I have never seen anyone being mistyped. At least, not until the moment that I made that comment to Calla. You might be mistyped once. It can happen. But it certainly happened before my joining this forum. I cannot know everything. And besides, I do not try to look argumentative when I make "sarcastic jokes". That is the point of making a joke. If I wanted to be argumentative, I wouldn't throw it on this topic. I would have another one.

The only reason why this topic looks "venomous" is because of the people who perceive it that way. My comment to Calla was a joke. And other people took it as venom and started derailing the topic. Not me. If you look for someone to point fingers at...I suggest you to look at the mirror.

PS: I have no problem with my topics being derailed either. If you have an argument. Bring it on! Anytime. I love that.

Hello,

I do not know what do you mean by "self awareness", but I somehow believe that I am quite self aware of what I say. Except the circumstances where my social mobility is limited to analyze the situations and people from more objective perspective. Other than that I am quite self aware (at least my stupid self thinks so). I do not really know if my fighting is unreasonable for other or not, but for me (generally speaking) its not unreasonable. There are serious reasons behind my fighting that I seem unable to carry out to the visible light spectrum. I do not believe any of that happened here on this forum yet. I am speaking in general terms. If you think that this side of me somehow manifested itself in my speech on this particular topic, I suggest you to reconsider your reasoning. I am not on fighting terms with anyone here. Including you.

I am not trying to twist anything. And the proof for that is this: I am unable to twist anything. Incapable. What I say is what I believe. And what I believe is what I say. There is no double talk here. If you believe that my words have some negative impact on people, I cannot see how that happens. Although the reaction from people in that particular topics would suggest so. I do not understand why. It certainly wasn't my intent to make them so. My comment to the girl who wanted to be typed was just in a "suggestive" manner. And it was half jokingly. I do not understand why people would take this as "spreading venom".

Edit: Maybe I can help you with something here. I can speed up some time into future and tell you what your outlook about me would appear to you. You would simply think "This MV is an idiot (and probably rightly so). Why have I ever tried to explain things to him? He certainly a stupid ox. Leave him alone. Or better yet, just ignore him and hope that he will leave someday. Thank goodness that I finally realized that." Perhaps that helps?

Starlit, that conversation was basically (if we try to isolate) a commnunication between my heavy Te straightforwardness (together with my Fi values of fairness and transparency/authenticity/self-investigation) and his Fi (that started the whole thing, in a bitter Fi mode, as Erifrail had pointed out at the beginning. And his Te too). There is a funny/interesting dimension to it. We share the same functions, which is interesting.

(Isolating can be interesting, yes. Bearing in mind that people are more than CT too, as I always insist hehe. There are always many variables involved.)

Just my thoughts: i find very interesting the points you are bringing up. the forum could learn CT from meta-analysis of what happens on the forum. However, I believe one could not explain the specific phenomenon of this thread strictly through the dance of functions, once there was denial of things involved (we were not speaking the same language. We were talking about completely different realities, and that's why I gave up lol - there were many unconscious personal contents involved that I wouldn't dare investigate/dig deep here because they don't belong to me), differently from the conversation between peppergirl and I, in which there was no denial involved... It was more a matter of different focus but there was effective communication.