Wanted to share some more thoughts about Fe's appearance. As you know, Fi has tension in the cheeks, specifically running through the center of the face. The tension is vertical from the corners of the lips up to the sides of the nose and sometimes even higher up to the cheekbone. But High-Fe users sometimes do have a different form of "tension" that runs more diagonally. So it still corresponds to the lips-to-nose vs lips-to-ears distinction.
Fe Anger/Assertiveness
(not to say they're literally angry, but just what it looks like)
Unlike Fi sullen cheeks, Fi anger looks more condescending, and the tension in the cheeks appears like they're about to strike you. Inversely Fi sullen/bitter cheeks look more pained and hurt, as if they're trying to avoid you. It's difficult to point out where this tension is, but I think it's located between the cheekbone and the jaw. The impression is one of implied assertiveness/hostility or at least the sense that one is being judged ethically. Here's another image of it:
Auburn have you seen the photos i've posted in the "Fi/Fe subtle differences" post? Is that correlated with the things you've wrote here or is a physical manifestation of "dark fe"?
Aggression is Se? o,o I don't remember hearing that anywhere..
Se can come across as "intense" and a little bit "intrusive" due to its penetrating stare which pierces through people. Though at worse it'd come off as creepy.
Aggression involves emotion. At least how I meant it in the above. It's a sort of condemnation or judgment upon others being elicited by the simple way the cheeks are being held. The addition of Se with Fe, though, does make the aggression more pronounced from my experience.
Post by frenetictranquility on Jun 18, 2013 0:47:10 GMT -5
I suppose it really depends on how you define aggression. I mean, I think anyone can be aggressive if the situation at hand relates to something that engages their passion. But I was going for more of the traditional meaning of aggression, which is hyper focus on a particular external target in the world. ESTP and ENTJ take the cake in this category, with no stress necessary to provoke it, they just need an Ni vision to propel them into action. That is my own empirically based opinion. Do you disagree?
If you are going to refer to aggression as an blatant anger outburst sort of thing, then it might be different.
Post by frenetictranquility on Jun 18, 2013 0:56:10 GMT -5
Although I should mention that some of the most aggressive people I've ever met are ESFJ men, but I think that has more to do with trying to live up to the social norm of being a man while being sensitive and externally influenced. But I see these aggressive reactions were anger that they were "slipping" in the "big man in control" man stereotype, so I don't know how you want to qualify it.
Post by ayoungspirit on Jun 27, 2013 14:48:30 GMT -5
Since Fe is a projected ethical judgement, I was wondering if the anger impression, zygomatic tension, could be modified by the object at which the Fe user was looking (maybe internally too ?), so I made this little montage of myself to see if the idea was going anywhere. Se scowling seems effectively to add to the impression. Sorry for my emaciated and dark ringed face and more so for the beard, the experiment was spontaneous. My type is not entirely confirmed yet but I am a Ti-Fe user.
Last Edit: Oct 30, 2014 10:53:40 GMT -5 by ayoungspirit