2. yay! but still i dont really get it because the scrowls look like Si scrowls and the eyes look Ne in shape although they don't toggle..
3. no no no I mean...look at other videos of him..how can this guy be Pi? He's so... extroverted in the way he talks. As for Fe - he has a TON of assymetrical mouth movements in some of the videos..also he wobbles.. I don't understand..
I think I'm seeing Fi and nasal voice is Te (?) so that would be Fi/Te
He does have that Te nasal voice, a drone-y articulation, the asymmetrical expressions, etc. He's got that announcer/news-anchor voice and delivery, which I see so often in American TV news outlets. He's also got conductor energy, a 'fixed gaze' and a Pi-lead posture overall. I might leave room open for NiTe, but Pi+Te is pretty clear.
Also, the Living Enneagram is also SiTe. And so is the woman at #7: SiTe, not an NiFe.
I think you're seeing a pattern, but is mislabeled. These guys are a very similar shade as Dario Nardi, who is either SiTe or NeFi.
metacognito - has the signs of depression, and a flat affect on his eyes, as Alerith has been exploring. And there is genuine pain in his voice, so that's a wounded Fi. I don't know to what extent that is obscuring signals. But Fi is definitely there, and he's got natively introverted energy. I would say introverted Delta is most likely. Broken FiNe male, is what strikes me as most possible.
edit: I really do need to do the SiTe video! I think we're missing data on them.
Here is another emotionally sensitive SiTe-Fi (alt: NeFi) that fits the pattern which I think you're noticing:
(I think most of the focus we've done on SiTe so far has been where Te is strongly prioritized over Fi... c.c, but these guys seem to be F > T in temperament. I may be wrong about this, but I'm seeing a bubble of people that is distinct from the NiFe bubble in prominent ways)
I think you're seeing a pattern, but is mislabeled.
Woohooo I'm seeing a pattern!!
Yes, SiTe does make sense - that would explain why they have introverted energy and yet they talk with ease and continuous fluidity like extroverts. SiTe sould be called "the verbal introverts" or something.
Right, they have the "fixed gaze" signal of Pi. The eyes can be quite steady. This guy is an Si-lead:
Their mouth drones on down below while their eyes remain steady and front-facing. It's also a mix of Pi rambling and Te. Te's articulation is very speedy and when Ne exists in the hierarchy it can get even more prolific, due to the Ne+Te combination which is "massive data generation" + "fast execution". The NiFe vultology will savor its articulation a bit more, while embedding into in a type of audience-guiding emotionality.
What does surprises me a bit is their interests. I didn't know they liked this sort of stuff. But then again I shouldn't really be surprised, as all types can be/are interesting in all subjects.
Alerith I have trying to type this guy from the Living enneagram and I thought he must be SiFe or FeSi but then I remembered you typing this lady at number 7 as NiFe - and she has similar scrowls to him. Also I noticed both of them keep their eyes on the camera almost always with no toggling. So, can he be NiFe? How can I tell them apart?
I'm so sorry for mistyping the lady from InterPersonality >.< Truth be told, I haven't been well lately and have fallen behind in reading practice, so I'm rusty. Just take my opinions with a grain of salt!
Speaking of mistyping Pi-leads, I think what Erifrail's pointing out about the fixed-gaze of Pi is something very important to keep in mind. This signal and the 'hypnotic-gaze' of Ni are two different things, but the way i've seen it written about in places on the site, and especially on the forum, there seems to be more attention given to the Ni signal, leading to something of an ignorance to the general Pi signal. But both Pi functions cause a steadiness of gaze when they're dominant, or even sometimes when they're auxiliary. Something that helps me to differentiate is the 'penetrating' look of Ni vs the 'painted-on' look of Si. Of course this isn't always the case, but a lot of the time when Si is dominant the person's eyes will look kind of cartooney, almost as if they've been artificially placed on their face. They appear disengaged with the environment, while Ni eyes will often appear to be looking through objects, as is described in the book and elsewhere.
You also asked a question that I didn't see directly answered, about which judgement duality leads to monotone speech (forgive me if I missed a post and am just repeating what someone else said!) That's Te/Fi, especially noticeable when Te > Fi. This is due to 'T' being the articulation function. Te tends to linearly, dryly express information, contrasted to Fe which imbues emotional emphasis into its words. Te/Fi will continuously show emotionality, at least a slight bit in Fi tension, and can have emotion in the voice, but it's not so directly coordinated into emphasis as happens with Fe.
^a youtuber who initially identified as ENTJ and made his whole channel revolve around his identity as ENTJ, then was typed as infj by MBTV. Says he developed a tough exterior due to external pressures in childhood.
Um..... Don't say that! I was taking them as gospel!
I am going to figure out how to use modern technology so I can create a like thread. But it's not going to include fake INFJs pretending they know what they are talking about. And bad attempts at explaining the word "paradoxical." Did anyone else catch that? Okay, I feel mean now. I shouldn't criticize people on the internet. ("But they put themselves out there and asked for it," whispers evil teatime.).
These are good threads, bellabellas86! I love the idea. It's fun to see why each author (dunno what to call them) typed themselves the way they did by seeing what they say about themselves, etc. You should do one for each type!!
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Post by The Doctor (can't log in) on Sept 6, 2017 12:56:17 GMT -5
Trey (3 posts above) looks to be exhibiting a lot of Si (peak in the middle) eyebrows, Ne darting, Fe smiles and arm waving, and Ti intricate fingers as well as the stillness in the upper face. Lots of extroverted animation.
I'd type him as FeSi or NeTi based on this. FeSi could mistype as N and T if a male who sees himself as smart/imaginative. NeTi could mistype as J. Both could be easily swayed into thinking they're any given type by a peer group or people they consider experts.
I also wonder if sometimes watching people talk to no one in particular (giving prepared speeches or talking to a camera) can be somewhat misleading. Perhaps not about overall body language but when it comes to eye movements, for example. If you don't need to remember what you are going to say (in the case of something more prepared or rehearsed) might that not make it harder to judge Ni v. Ne? And if there is no human in front of you (or no human in particular, as in the case of a very large crowd), might not certain Fi v. Fe traits be harder to see visually?
So much of body language is nonverbal communication, and I just wonder if you aren't communicating with a human, doesn't that somewhat change how people might self-present?