I've give this a try, though without going too deeply into any one of them. So I apologize for the lack of detail. These are rough reads; maybe 2-3 minutes each due to time constraints. Still that's usually enough time to get a strong general idea for most people's type. Here goes: #1 = TiNe
Lots of neutralization, pausing, and receeding energy (I). But also a cognitive concern with the fundamental accuracy or inaccuracy of adopting an external notion/system. Very much Ji criticism. Ne eyes toggling endlessly, and thoughts are generally very detached from the environment and live in a sort of abstract domain.
#2 = SeFi (or FiSe)
Very tactile, physically oriented in what he says, and how he grabs things. There's Se "presence" there. But his eyes are also very sharp/Se, with the skin around the eyes pulled taut, and have a piercing quality.
He moves his head around with his eyes as a unit (P-lead) and has a bit of that restless energy to him that makes him stay in a kind of constant 'spunky' motion (Pe). Other gamma types are also possible, but somewhere in this ballpark for sure.
#3 = SeTi-Ti (or Beta in general)
Could be an introverted Beta as well. So NiFe or TiSe not impossible.
#4 = SeTi?
I wanna say SeTi for this one, but it could be something else. This is just an rough reading but he's definitely Pe-lead, and seems likely Se-lead.
#5 = FiNe
This one might actually be FiNe. He seems to have a layer of depression (or some sort of psychological affect) atop his type, that's slowing him down, so I can't say for sure.
He's restless and has some Pe fluidity and bubbling momentum, and yet he seems to be constantly receding. So either a Ji-lead that's very anxious on camera, or he's a slowed-down Pe-lead. Either is very possible.
Either way, you can see/feel his Fi everywhere. By the way his voice sounds (a little bit wounded) but also by how he speaks about things from a very first-person subjective, emotionally charged place, despite speaking so low volume. He is deeply affected by the matters he's involved in, and is not a neutral party.
#6 = NeTi, solid.
#7 = NeFi-Te Unseelie (and drunk)
#8 = TiNe (or TiSe, cant see his eyes well enough)
Very Ji posture. Exceedingly neutralizing energy, and meticulous body posture. Folded. Soft wrists. Disengaging down. Momentum halting. Zygomatical smiles. Etc.
#9 = SeFi/FiSe
This is one of those "just-took-the-test-and-omg-INFP-and-relate-to-everything" cases She's definitely a gamma type, though I can't say with certainty which one from this quick/rough reading.
#10 = FiSe (FiNe)
Another example of that private emotional energy, subjective radiation of judgment (Fi) etc. Everything comes from that place of private emotionality which is held in restraint but which seeps out unbidden. This is another example of the use of MBTI as a vehicle for identity affirmation. To appease the feeling of being alone in the world. Which is a great thing in itself, but the execution here is not entirely correct.
p.s. There's some possibility she's actually FiNe if she's obscuring her eyes with all that makeup.
#11 = SeFi (alt: FiSe)
In this video she looks more FiSe but looking at a few others of her ( /watch?v=0RlDt2yxo1E ) she actually talks about that gamma fervor directly! We see the haughtiness of what might be SeFi-Te. And she seems more proactive there. Still, some sort of high Fi gamma for sure. Again these are just partial-readings.
#12 = FiNe (FiSe)
This one seems to be FiNe. Slightly unsure about the eyes but generally confident about this one. Shades of existentialistcat to this one. The mouth expressions are very clear as well. Like the above Fi users, there's that private, charged emotional undertone.
#13 = SeFi (NeFi)
Definitely Pe-lead. Bubbling momentum, body swaying, natively proactive energy which is not receding inward but is constantly going outward. Lower chances of SeTi/NeTi not impossible. But phew! just trying to get to the end here. Also, I don't think he's claiming to be an FiNe, he seems to be addressing them.
4. NeTi, I think? It's hard to see his eyes and he doesn't smile, but I think I see Si, his hands are Fe-coordinated, and he's a P-lead for sure. Seems a little loose for an SiFe but what do I know.
5. FiSe, I think. More likely to be TiSe than FiNe in my opinion. Se eyes, Fi tension, and that unseelie Gamma intensity that would start off a video complaining about unrelated things. That kind of intense, defensive justification for doing things "because I felt like it" seems right on-brand for unseelie FiSe.
6. NeTi
7. P-Lead, strikes me as an Fi/Te-user. Maybe the same Gamma anger I mentioned above? I found this particular video to be too off-putting, to be honest, so I had to find a different video of hers. SeFi, maybe?
8. TiNe
9. FiNe
10. TiNe. Maybe FiNe, but I think a lot of that is that she seems really sad. Maybe struggling with depression due to loneliness? Sounds like she doesn't get a lot of contact with people she relates to.
11. FeSi. Leave it to an Fe-lead to make a stream-of-consciousness video that starts by checking in on the viewer d:
12. FiNe
13. Se/Ni-user, probably Fi also. Not really sure past that except probably not TeNi.
Edit: started writing before Erifrail posted, so I got to compare immediately. I won't change any of my answers for posterity's sake, but let it be known I'm not attached to most of the disagreements d:
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Youtube FiNeApr 26, 2017 15:29:08 GMT -5 by Deleted
Thanks Erifrail and Zwelious!! Cool, so.. here are my thought on these ppl..
1. Love his hair. I related to him only a bit personality wise.
2. Self esteem issues. Never related to him much.
3. How can you tell a beta type? All I can say is he's enneagram 4ish. Didn't relate to him too much.
4. I actually related to the stuff he said.
5. LOVE THIS GUY!! He is actually the one I have always related to the most personality-wise. I sent him several messages in the past telling him that (also sent him my video on soul-sickness). I think his psychology is very similar to mine (although granted he seems to lack my presumptuous "save the world" need). I was actually thinking, if you type this guy TiNe, I'm doomed (haha). And yeah you are right he had depression. I especially related to this video he made:
Notice the similarity between what he says in the begining and at 7:00 and what I said in the Marxism video about giving our lives to bosses. I find this whole rant is basically the FiNe's typical innability to "get on with system" (Te). Also, I love how he says "I'm rarely this passionate about anything" haha, very FiNe. He's also very enneagram 4ish (although I asked him once he said he thinks 9, proably both in his tritype like most FiNe). The worldview this enneagram is something like - life is inherently tragic therefore I MOURN, or alternatively - life is inherently depriving therefore I YEARN.
but where is the Fi tention and mouth wabbling?
6. Really? Didn't see that coming. As for relating to him, only a bit.
7. She's an extrovert?? Ramble on would also be someone I relate to in many ways. Her tritype is 478. Could it be the 7 adding the bubbly attitude? or perhaps she is in fact NeFi, as the tritype fits. Actually, there was only one video she is truly being herself (no edits) and she was very different, much less bubbly and a lot more sensitive, but apparently she took it down
8. I relate to this dude as well!!! Again, he said his enneagram is 4 (i'm assuming wing 5). So... mbti INFP 4w5's get TiNe on CT? Enneagram 5 gives the emotionality of the 4 an ability to detach and a bit more of an outside observer attitude.
9. Haha. I somewhat related to some of what she said. She has a lot of mental issues.
10. I was always sure she was an ISFP (with her cats and stuff). Never related to her at all and always thought she's mistyped.
11. Love this girl and kinda relate to her! I feel like a more (for lack of better term) "intellectual" version of her and the depressed dude. I wonder if number 8 would feel the same or not.
12. I relate to some of her content (the idealistic videos) and the spirituality seeking element
13. He does claim he's infp. I don't relate to him at all.
Thanks this is so interesting!!
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^ She may be FiSe, but I don't see her having Ne. She has that sassy Te+Se Gamma quadrant energy and the steady back-and-forth eye toggling of Se. Her Te seems relatively well integrated, at first I thought she may be TeNi, but she does seem to have recessive energy. I'd say FiSe-Te.
I thought FiSe at first, but upon closer inspection, she has a pinched, monotone drone, a steely type of energy, snappy movements, and a more "forward" type of expression as opposed to the more "disarmed", emphemeral and radiating energy of high-Fi. Still, FiSe would be my other guess for her.
edit: oh, i just saw Alerith's post. Yeah, basically the same thing. I haven't watched more than the first 1 minute but gamma with fair use of Te. I have to run but I can elaborate on some of these later.
All I can say is he's enneagram 4ish. Didn't relate to him too much.
Fe smiles with Ti neutralization, eyes that move like an SeNi-user.
I also think he has that kind of Beta "guru" quality to him, giving advice from his own experience that he sees as globally applicable. When asked a personal question, he responds with "The INFP has...", as one who has a wealth of knowledge of things and can shepherd you toward a better/more accurate way of thinking. This isn't a predictor of quadra, but it's a neat thing to note that many Betas tend to do- a primary reason for Erifrail designating the NiFe "Grandfather" and SeTi "Anti-Sage" shades d:
She's an extrovert?? Ramble on would also be someone I relate to in many ways. Her tritype is 478. Could it be the 7 adding the bubbly attitude? or perhaps she is in fact NeFi, as the tritype fits. Actually, there was only one video she is truly being herself (no edits) and she was very different, much less bubbly and a lot more sensitive, but apparently she took it down
I mean, she might be an introvert in the popular internet sense of preferring personal time. Leading with Pe/Je doesn't necessarily make you an outgoing people-person, especially with Ne. Unseelie NeFi-Te actually makes more sense as an introvert than not, to me at least.
The read itself isn't based on how outgoing or bubbly or loud she is, but on specific posture cues and how her head moves in conjunction with her eyes and speech. Even if being very quiet and reserved, as long as a Pe-lead isn't specifically trying to stop themselves, at least a little of that will come out.
So... mbti INFP 4w5's get TiNe on CT? Enneagram 5 gives the emotionality of the 4 an ability to detach and a bit more of an outside observer attitude.
I think you've got a good eye for correlation here, but the causation is backwards. Vultology, as far as we know, is pretty hard-wired in from birth, even if shade can vary over a lifetime. You're not going to get a completely different set of function signals because of Enneagram fixations, otherwise this would be visual reading for that system d:
I think, far more likely than a 5-wing disguising your vultology into an entirely different type, is that TiNe who are 4-cores are likely to self-identify as INFP, because E4 individuals focus on and identify with their "unique" emotional experience. Feeling like an F>T or even Fi rather than Ti when that isn't technically true doesn't invalidate that subjective experience. If a TiNe 4 identifies as more emotional than logical, then that's probably perfectly true of them- even if it would probably be helpful to acknowledge the difference between I+F and Fi.
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Youtube FiNeApr 27, 2017 8:55:54 GMT -5 by Deleted
I think you've got a good eye for correlation here, but the causation is backwards. Vultology, as far as we know, is pretty hard-wired in from birth, even if shade can vary over a lifetime. You're not going to get a completely different set of function signals because of Enneagram fixations, otherwise this would be visual reading for that system d:
I think, far more likely than a 5-wing disguising your vultology into an entirely different type, is that TiNe who are 4-cores are likely to self-identify as INFP, because E4 individuals focus on and identify with their "unique" emotional experience. Feeling like an F>T or even Fi rather than Ti when that isn't technically true doesn't invalidate that subjective experience. If a TiNe 4 identifies as more emotional than logical, then that's probably perfectly true of them- even if it would probably be helpful to acknowledge the difference between I+F and Fi.
I've definitely thought of that option as well, and still keeping it mind, but I'm currently pondering if its the other way around due to my own personal experiences which you can read about in my last comment on the "my understanding of Fi" thread.
thanks for the beta explanation, not sure i get it yet.
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Youtube FiNeApr 30, 2017 4:37:35 GMT -5 by Deleted
Just have time for a brief pass. So I'm mostly gonna try and find if they're FiNe or not.
1. Yes. FiNe The only other type she could be is TiNe but I quite doubt it.
2. Very No. Pe+Je Definitely extroverted, probably Pe-lead with strong Je.
3. No. NeFi-Te Or alternatively TeSi, but this seems less likely. Some sort of extroverted Delta though.
4. No. PeJi (NeTi? SeTi?)
5. Close but no. NeFi (alt: SeFi?) Very cute! I had to look for a longer video ( /watch?v=rLYL79l-B1o ) and I definitely see the Pe-lead energy and momentum. Those eyes just can't stop toggling either.
6. No. PeJi (NeTi? NeFi?)
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Youtube FiNeApr 30, 2017 17:48:48 GMT -5 by Deleted
1. Ooooh now I'm curious!!! So what would make her a candidate for TiNe in the first place? where is the gray area in her case?
2. haha
3. Really? Why not? she does the mouth wabbling thing..has little mouth/nose pulls upwards..?
4. didn't think so
5. she blinks a lot.
6. well no wonder she doesn't like poetry!!!!!1
Also, that "seeker of self discovery" girl you posted up in the thread, where are the Fi signals in her case? I don't see any of the ones you mentioned (except voice)..