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New Member, can you try to ype me? :) Aug 10, 2017 9:47:35 GMT -5 by jackobus

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Post by jackobus on Aug 10, 2017 9:47:35 GMT -5

Hello to everyone!
My introduction was cut off, sorry, I'm Jacopo, 22 years old, from Florence

I juast made this little video (11 minutes long sorry sorry sorry) and would like to ask for your cooperation, I'm really confused about my cognitive functions and types!

As example of what I meant as "Gut feelinng", 2 years ago i guessed with my ex that a couple of our friends, even if they were staying together for 6 years, would eventually break-up, and so it happened one month ago ahaha
I feel a little guilty for having jinxed them

Anyway, here is the video, hope you won't get tired

Auburn , if you have some time I'd be really reall7y grateful, viewing all video is not necessary, i just found myself monologuing a lot :/

Thank you everyone from the bottom of my heart, have good holidays, I send you my best wishes

Last Edit: Aug 11, 2017 5:33:24 GMT -5 by jackobus

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New Member, can you try to ype me? :) Aug 11, 2017 17:21:44 GMT -5 by Auburn jackobus likes this

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Post by Auburn on Aug 11, 2017 17:21:44 GMT -5

Hello jackobus , welcome!

Sure thing!
Well, it's immediately clear that you're an Ne-lead type.

And upon closer review, you appear to be NeFi - just as you suggested.

You display a constant momentum and buoyancy of body (Pe), with a free-flowing energy that is "perky" and a little jittery (Pe). Your eyes are constantly toggling, as they sit rather casually in their sockets, and brush-stroke the environment without "fixating" its gaze on anything (Ne).

And we can see Fi in your mouth expressions and the quality of your emotional displays/smiles:

(..i borrowed these screenshots from your video, but let me know if you'd like them deleted at anytime)

In the larger photo above, we see what we call a "giddy" smile.
Characterized by the smile rising up vertically toward the nose, and breaking through the cheeks and into the eyes.
These Fi smiles are very disarming, somewhat bashful and very honest. Fi doesn't try to conceal the radiation of its feeling, and so it seeps out in a rather transparent way.

And moreso, in the bottom four images we see Fi asymmetrical expressions. One side of your lip pulls unevenly to one side as you smile or talk, causing sometimes a "wobbly mouth" effect. Combined with your steady pace of articulation (a plateau, rather than pushes/swells), we see Fi/Te pretty clearly.

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Interesting. Your mother might be a different type than you, even if you both typed as ENFP. If you happen to get a video of her, we'd be happy to share our analysis of her too.

(By the way, that's a really cool paining on the wall behind you - wow! do you know who the artist is?)

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New Member, can you try to ype me? :) Aug 11, 2017 19:50:20 GMT -5 by jackobus

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Post by jackobus on Aug 11, 2017 19:50:20 GMT -5

Auburn

Thanks a lot for your awesome analysis, i't s disarming in this precision! I Always thought I was closer to an ESFP since I am very concrete and realistic in my approach to things and problems, but I also thought that I coul be both ar ENTP(for Ne/Ti) or an ENFJ, since Fe resonate with me a lot and people usaully opens up to me when I met them; I'm not a so wild brainstormer, but I trust in your anlaysis, I just need to accept my ENFPness then ahaha
The screenshot are awesome, I really liked how you spotted my behaviour by only that image, Vultology is a wonderful science!

For my mother I would ask if she wants to make a video together, i don't think she would be prone to make a video of herself to be post on a random forum ahahah She's very creative,a fashion designer, but I think of her as a possible ENFJ because she's really emotive and not very prone to make strong logical argumentations, also she wants to help anyone she finds on her path. The doubt that I have is that she has really really strong principles and a promoter of free spirit and indenpendence, and she always know how something makes her feel.

Regarding the painting on the wall, it's made by a friend of us that is a professional painter, from Livorno! He's called Luca Bellandi, he's kinda famous here in Tuscany, is really suggest you to take a look at his paintings

Thanks again a lot for yur beautiful analysis, i would really like to delve deeper in these things, could you suggest me some threads to get started, especially regarding ENFP?

Best wishes and thanks again Eri, you're fantastic, sorry for the excessive lenght of the video

Last Edit: Aug 11, 2017 19:53:40 GMT -5 by jackobus

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New Member, can you try to ype me? :) Aug 11, 2017 23:26:39 GMT -5 by Auburn

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Post by Auburn on Aug 11, 2017 23:26:39 GMT -5

Sure!
Hmmm.. it seems a number of NeFi experience an ability to be socially open. NeFi have the largest expressive range of the 16 types, and so it's very hard to pack them into a single profile.

But this might be relevant to you:

"The NeFi may gain sufficient mastery of the logistics of people and their sensitivities to execute a crafted presentation in a similar way to Fe. The NeFi manages these social dynamics through Ne’s ability to simulate situations in real-time, anticipating reactions based on association and responding via emulation. Their presentation and delivery will use Te gesticulations embedded with Ne’s levity and Fi’s seelie energy, resulting in a warm and actively inviting aura.

We see this approachable presentation in NeFi talk show hosts Ellen DeGeneres, Craig Ferguson and Jonathan Ross who possess an amiable and playful personality capable of managing intereactions with a diversity of guests.

We can, however, discern the subtle differences between this impact and the impact of Fe. The delivery of the faux-Fe is caring, good-willed and affable but lacks an element of social interdependency. For an Fe user, every interaction is an unspoken contract; a dance in which a dynamic is anticipated and its satisfaction or dismissal alters the energies of both parties.

For the faux-Fe, their emotions do not become entangled in quite the same manner; allowing them to retain their Fi’s independence. As a result, they will not dance in parallel to the flow of emotional energy; keeping their disposition, however generous, uniform or changing it only as they decide to from their own Fi."

- Cognitive Type, NeFi chapter

The difference in this case is NeFi's don't try to push/receive certain responses. They can be open and inviting, but without exerting pressure or tension on others in that coordinated Fe way. Fe plays a kind of social "game" by siphoning energies here and there. Causing specific reactions, even if its of appearing harmless.

Currently we're still constructing in-depth profiles...
but there's a lot of scattered information all across the forum!
The "Explorer" board might be a good place.

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New Member, can you try to ype me? :) Aug 12, 2017 5:25:14 GMT -5 by jackobus

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Post by jackobus on Aug 12, 2017 5:25:14 GMT -5

Auburn

Thanks a lot, this is a really interesting analysis, I never thought that the Ne-Fi combination could manage to emulate in some kind of way the Fe way of connecting on other peopel!

For the faux-Fe, their emotions do not become entangled in quite the same manner; allowing them to retain their Fi’s independence. As a result, they will not dance in parallel to the flow of emotional energy; keeping their disposition, however generous, uniform or changing it only as they decide to from their own Fi."

This one is the most interesting passage, and I think, in some way, can apply to me! My doubt left is the Se-Fi way of acting, since I thought ESFP would be also a very good choice for me, but I think 90 out of 100 I could be ENFP, since, especially when I'm tired, I don't pay attention to my surroundings and I forget appointments and other things lately xD

Thank you again for your In- Depth analysis, I'll be sure to take a look at the "Explorer" board too

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New Member, can you try to ype me? :) Aug 12, 2017 18:22:05 GMT -5 by jelle jackobus likes this

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Post by jelle on Aug 12, 2017 18:22:05 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2017 17:21:44 GMT -5 Auburn said:

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In the larger photo above, we see what we call a "giddy" smile.
Characterized by the smile rising up vertically toward the nose, and breaking through the cheeks and into the eyes.
These Fi smiles are very disarming, somewhat bashful and very honest. Fi doesn't try to conceal the radiation of its feeling, and so it seeps out in a rather transparent way.

Haha, I actually consciously mastered this smile to get children and people to like me more. I knew my Fe placid smile wasn't cutting it. What I do is purposely crinkle up my nose to give a playful teasing kind of look to it. Works a charm! TiSe mimicry lol.

Also, welcome jackobus!

Undoing the mind's idols and prejudice allows each element to find its place within a self-organising assembly. Deus sive Natura.

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New Member, can you try to ype me? :) Aug 12, 2017 19:03:17 GMT -5 by jackobus

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Post by jackobus on Aug 12, 2017 19:03:17 GMT -5

Aug 12, 2017 18:22:05 GMT -5 jelle said:

Aug 11, 2017 17:21:44 GMT -5 Auburn said:

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In the larger photo above, we see what we call a "giddy" smile.
Characterized by the smile rising up vertically toward the nose, and breaking through the cheeks and into the eyes.
These Fi smiles are very disarming, somewhat bashful and very honest. Fi doesn't try to conceal the radiation of its feeling, and so it seeps out in a rather transparent way.

Haha, I actually consciously mastered this smile to get children and people to like me more. I knew my Fe placid smile wasn't cutting it. What I do is purposely crinkle up my nose to give a playful teasing kind of look to it. Works a charm! TiSe mimicry lol.

Also, welcome jackobus !

Ahaha I don't know why small children love this smile a lot! They're kinda attracted to me, so you're totally right

Thanks a lot for the welcoming jelle , I'm happy to know you all

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