Frederic Pignon equestrian artist - TiNe-Fe?

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Frederic Pignon equestrian artist - TiNe-Fe? Feb 1, 2018 17:19:03 GMT -5 by becks

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Post by becks on Feb 1, 2018 17:19:03 GMT -5

I really like the approach of Frederic Pignon towards horses.
I thought he could be TiNe-Fe because it sounded a good idea and a good fit with the Psychoanalyst type.
I confirmed my impression with vultology, but of course I could be biased especially as I evaluated him with an assumption in mind.
I would be interested to have other opinions

Zweilous Full Member Posts: 282 Type: TiNe-Ne Development: llll Temperament: ENT	Frederic Pignon equestrian artist - TiNe-Fe? Feb 1, 2018 17:49:08 GMT -5 by Zweilous becks likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Zweilous on Feb 1, 2018 17:49:08 GMT -5 I'm seeing Fi. NeSi seems more likely from the one video.

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Frederic Pignon equestrian artist - TiNe-Fe? Feb 4, 2018 23:16:00 GMT -5 by Alerith becks likes this

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Post by Alerith on Feb 4, 2018 23:16:00 GMT -5

ah! one of my fellow countrymen - vive la France <3

Something I've noticed about people of European origin, especially the French and German, is that we tend to engage the lavator labii superioris muscles, which raise the upper lip. This can sometimes give a similar appearance to Fi snarling tension, but doesn't necessarily indicate the presence of Fi.

In Frederic's case I see a slight upward tension, but also swelling, on-beat articulation, delicate pinching with his hands, and intentional smiles that pull out horizontally. The pattern of his gesticulations has that *oomph* of Fe, and his voice is smooth and embedded with emotionality. This all points to Fe>Fi. TiNe-Fe is actually a good guess for him I think, although FiNe isn't impossible since he does have that tension present.

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Frederic Pignon equestrian artist - TiNe-Fe? Feb 6, 2018 18:38:11 GMT -5 by becks

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Post by becks on Feb 6, 2018 18:38:11 GMT -5

Zweilous Alerith thank you very much!

Indeed I see now this upper lip tension in his smile, his mouth is even kind of square sometimes. But I find the area below his eyes flat, and I don't see asymmetries.
It seems that vultology is often not so straightforward

I have actually another horseman case which I think could be TiNe-Fe: Mark Rashid.
Similar assumption and impression as I had for Frederic Pignon.
But there are not many videos of him - I find this one good to assess him but the quality is low:

I have one of his books which is very autobiographical.
If you think you have enough material to type him accurately and if you find it useful, I could summarize it for your autobiographies project?

Alerith

ah! one of my fellow countrymen - vive la France <3

Aha oui en voyant ton nom je m'étais demandé si tu étais française ou si c'était juste peut-être une origine plus ou moins lointaine

Frederic Pignon equestrian artist - TiNe-Fe?

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