First I must say there's a lot we still don't know, and the Definitive Vultology series has been generating a lot of raw data that we haven't even started to parse out or unpack. So in an effort to expand our understanding of the Te/Fi duality through the examination of our samples as categorized in the dev levels series, here is a summary of what I believe we see. I would like to, as much as possible, extract definitions directly from the evidence, so I'll be using all the corresponding samples in the Definitive series as support for each description without cherry-picking, to avoid skewing results.
Bear in mind this is based on the Delta quadrant only, as the Gamma quadrant has not yet been properly described, but hopefully some of this carries across to both.
Savannah Guthrie (morning show host, news reporter, attorney)
Liza Former (morning show host, journalist)
Elizabeth Warren (liberal/progressive politician)
Brene Brown (author of The Power of Vulnerability, Dare to Lead, Men Women Worthiness)
I was surprised by the level of focus some of these samples have on love, compassion, self-growth, vulnerability, self-empowerment but also in connecting to something spiritual, personal and intimate. Yet we see this juxtaposition of career-focus alongside a deep ethical and spiritual focus. In the case of samples like Martha Beck there's a literal encouragement of going into nature, forgetting what people think, and purging oneself of anything that isn't aligned to you. With others there's a focus on 'making it' in the world in your own personal leadership style.
The task here is to differentiate this from "Fe" which is actually pretty simple now that I look at it. On a surface level many of the same topics are touched as in adaptive Fe (society, human nature, love/kindness) but we see the imprint of "how" Te/Fi goes about it. There's a keener focus on finding one's own path, and also in discovering how to excel at who you are... in a practical sense. There's an encouragement of agency that is more systemic, and a support of ethical alignment that is more self-created. The subtle opposite is seen in Fe which goes about it through an emphasis on having compassion for mankind because we're all cut from the same cloth, and achieving goals by being supportive and interdependent on one another; good-samaritanism. These are rough outlines to a deeper point of contrast that exists which I am attempting to extract... as I struggle to hone into the qualia difference here which seems rather clear to me, but which is not tied to any specific subject that the samples are or aren't interested in. Both adaptive Fe and seelie Fi would likely agree with one another's viewpoints and even embrace them, although they'd go about it a little differently themselves. But I hope this is a sufficient approximation to extract the essence of the difference from.
Meredith Godreau (singer of "Boats and Birds", "Oats We Sow", "For the Best")
Ingrid Betancourt (anti-corruption activist and politician)
Claire Wright (blogger on spirituality, personal growth, magic/esotericism)
Vashti Bunyun (singer of "Train Song", "17 Pink Sugar Elephants")
Susan Cain (author of "Quiet")
Toby Hendy (scientist)
Arianna Huffington (author of "The Female Woman", "Thrive", "The Fourth Instinct")
Joan Baez (singer of "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down", "Diamonds & Rust")
Roaming, ephemeral spirits. Constantly in flight, whether literally or figuratively. Their songs have a fantastical element to them that transports you as if to a dream world. Strong focus on music, self-beautification, self-expression, sentimentality, love, etc. An unstructured existence, child-like, a bit confused in a starry-eyed way. Prone to appeal to the child-soul, to nature & to imagination. While there are some exceptions with the more Si+Te conscious samples like Arianna and Ingrid, most are not directly writing about 'the way to be', as much as they are experiencing that way firsthand. They embody a kind of celebration of freedom. These are those I've affectionally called 'fairies'.
Being seelie, they share all the same themes of compassion, self-growth and vulnerability as seen in the conductors. I don't really see any notable difference between conductors/revisers here in terms of Fi valuing; both appear to value the seelie aspect just as strongly. But in conductors it's accompanied by more structure, more order and finding a way to 'build an ideal life' and have a personal home and a stable lifestyle while not sacrificing your essence. Revisers tend to get lost in the ephemeral itself, and exist as floating entities content with art and emanating their self-expressions out to the world.
Carl Reiner (actor, comedian, director "The Dick Van Dyke Show")
Bill Maher (comedian, political commentator)
Stephen Colbert (comedian, political commentator "Colbert Report")
John Carmack (computer programmer "Doom", "Oculus")
Philip DeFranco (comedian, cultural commentator "DeFranco Show")
Tim Allen (comedian, actor "Home Improvement")
Richard Dawkins (biologist, scientist, atheist activist)
Craig Kilborn (comedian, talk show host "The Daily Show")
Ryan Stiles (comedian, director "Whose Line is it Anyway?")
Joe Flint (news reporter)
Scott Walker (politician)
Brian Williams (news anchor, politican commentator "NBC News")
Jay Inslee (politician, attorney)
Giff Nielsen (football coach)
Bill Hicks (comedian)
Kurt Schneider (video producer, editor, musician)
On the opposite side of the spectrum we have Te + Unseelie + Male. What we see in this conjunction is a whole lot of politics, followed closely by journalism and comedy. Most samples are enrolled in some sort of office position, are a news host who writes about those office positions, or is a political critic in some fashion. A smaller subclass are into witty humor, making use of Te's iconic clever bluntness and often weaving it back into politics as we see with Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert. There's a great deal of sarcasm, and some degree of callousness involved in their approaches. On the more creative side of the spectrum we see Cameron and Tolkien who are fantasy world creators, and John Carmack who programs games.
In most all of these occupations we see a distinctly mechanistic focus, whether it's through economics, business, programming or entrepreneurship. They are not sentimentalists. Unlike the seelie females, these men are businessmen who enjoy their craft but don't really have a focus on personal development, growth or subjects of compassion/love (perhaps only tangentially). They are also rather prolific, with strong careers mostly, and a lot of different things they're doing constantly. They don't seem to write books on success, they just "do" what they need to do.
Marc Guasch, Space Man, Matt Forman, Happy Phantom (typology, INT's/ENT's)
iDubbbz (tech reviewer)
Robert Llewellyn (tech reviewer)
Jon Rettinger (tech review, creator of "tech buffalo")
Tim Urban (blogger "Wait But Why")
AmazingPhil (comedian, youtuber)
Andre Meadows (comedian, youtuber)
Jonathan Ross (comedian, talk show host)
Wally De Backer (singer "Somebody That I Used To Know")
Mikey Chen (vlogger, travel guide)
Josh Groban (singer "You Raise Me Up", "To Where You Are")
This is the shade that is essentially matched to the typical geeky/nerdy INTP descriptions. And indeed NeFi's have turned out to be most heavily represented among theoretical physicists including Drew Endy, Albert Einstein, Eric Cornell, etc. We see a strong pattern of NeFi + Unseelie + Male associating with the INT temperament. The combination of unseelie+male almost certainly predisposes a person to have a more mechanistic or process-oriented interest in things. As such these individuals will not at all be like the seelie females above, nor embody any of the fairylike qualities associated to them. Instead this shade is best described as a "tech geek", is gadget-oriented, and enjoys having inventions, trinkets and puzzles to play/dabble with endlessly. They'll have a habit of hopping from one interest to another, having large collections of comics/video games/trivia/paraphernalia.
Now my task is to differentiate these from the NeTi's. This is rather hard to do, as we see many of the same qualities in NeTi's like Adam Savage. However, this shade tends even more heavily towards the aspie spectrum than NeTi's due to their lack of Fe (or seelieness) and an Ne+Te perception of the world that views reality as an assortment of modular components which fit together systemically. Oppositely, NeTi's tend to cluster more around the arts (being musicians, for example, and artists). NeTi's utilize their Ne in conjunction with a Ti/Fe focus on abstract philosophies of social organization and representation. In short the NeFi unseelie male has the mind of an engineer, while the NeTi has the mind of an armchair philosopher. To paint a sort of comedic picture of the differences, in a discussion between the two, the NeTi would probably tire out first as the NeFi unseelie male continued going on about the smallest technical differences in the circuit boards they're using and the physics of this-or-that effect caused by the batteries and bulbs.
As with the Te+Seelie+Female section above, I can only paint a qualitative picture... as any specific topic herein mentioned can just as easily be part of the NeTi or NeFi unseelie male's interests. It's more to do with the manner in which they approach the topic, that we see the contrast. For example, NeTi Adam Savage's craft is more focused on wood carvings, sculptures, nostalgic figurines (alpha hominess) -- as compared to Linus Tech Tip's craft which is focused on building new rigs or dissecting the technical details of certain wireless systems.
The next two sections will be less straightforward than the first two, as they represent a blend of energies. Seelie Males have a hybridization of masculine and feminine energy, as do Unseelie Females. But clear patterns can still be noted, which I'll be covering beginning with the females:
Lauren Southern (vlogger, conservative, social critic)
Blaire White (trans, conservative, social critic)
Safiya Nygaard (vlogger, media creator)
Germaine Greer (feminist, social critic)
Ayn Rand (author, social critic)
Fran Lebowitz (author, social critic "sardonic social commentary")
Joy Behar (comedian, talk show host "The View")
Tina Fey (comedian, actress)
Anna Kendrick (actress, singer)
I was quite surprised to see a very strong pattern in these women - not only that, but distinct from the male samples. While it may be said that the male unseelie samples are mechanical in their disposition and prefer business, enterprise and entrepreneurship... their female counterparts are not so mechanically inclined. Instead, they're inclined towards biting social commentary, criticisms, sarcastic humor and the like. If I may be as bold to say, they're more "bitchy" (and they call themselves this too) than they are business-minded. That is to say, they have a lot of bones to pick with people and are openly vocal and unapologetic about the issues they see with society, expressing them in an outspoken manner that can at times be blunt and shocking. There is also a strong tilt towards feminism, the empowerment of women, topics of rape/fertility/gender-roles and so forth.
Comedy is an aspect shared with their male counterparts, as they display the same dry wit and snappy comebacks. And despite all the aforementioned gripes they may have, they remain generally thick skinned, laid back and unfazed by most matters. One almost gets the sense that they enjoy ranting. Fran Lebowitz actually admits as much, saying in an interview "This is the best time to be a grouch because there's the most things to complain about, and they don't presently kill you for it or burn you."
I will not pretend to know exactly why the unseelie females differ from unseelie males in this detail, but it is intriguing to me that this observation alignments with the hypothesis of many authors that historically (and perhaps archetypally) the domain of women is the domain of the social circle. And so I can imagine that when women get unseelie they get more critical in the social sphere they occupy, rather than necessarily leaping into the corporate world or becoming more mechanically-minded.
Amy Lee (singer in Evanescence, "My Immortal", "Everybody's Fool")
Britney Spears (singer of "Womanizer", "Baby One More Time", "Toxic")
Jenna Marbles (vlogger, comedian, general life commentary)
Catherine Valdes (vlogger, life commentary)
Sabrina Cruz (vlogger, general life commentary)
Tana Mongeau (vlogger, general life commentary)
Laci Green (feminist, vlogger)
AlbinWonderland (vlogger, general life commentary)
Eesha Khare (engineer/scientist)
Vanessa Woods (researcher, journalist of biology)
Jennifer Lawrence (actress)
Ciscandra Nostalghia (singer "Plastic Heart", "Who You Talkin' To Man")
We likewise see a very persistent trend in this shade. Just as with the unseelie female conductors, there's a forthrightness to them, an almost disarming lack of secrecy and willingness to broadcast one's life to the world. Topics touched generally have no bounds, and can include sex, periods, girlfriend/boyfriend issues, work, making money, drinking, life dreams, emotional problems, life disappointments and anything else. When Fi is highly individual it cares little for modesty which is a type of concealment of the authentic self. Being rather filter-less, this humanness is no doubt part of what attracts attention and an audience. But it's also the sort of revelation that off-beat Fi's seem to be more disposed to.
Once again we see, as with the male contrast above, a more social focus to these samples. The unseelie male reviser types are tech enthusiasts, to put it simply, while the unseelie female revisers are frank/transparent windows into all trivial and non-trivial things life-related. But unlike the conductors who are pushing a kind of social agenda or keenly criticizing some aspect of systemic oppression, these women are merely expressing themselves as evolving and dynamic entities --lost to some degree in life, and documenting their confusing journey to some eventual or perpetual contentment.
Bob DeMaria (medical doctor, author "Dr.Bob's Guide to Optimal Health")
Ben Carson (medical doctor, politician)
Tanmay Bakshi (computer programmer prodigy)
Fred Rogers (host of "Mr.Roger's Neighborhood")
David Axelrod (politican consultant)
Peter Welch (politician)
Ed Witten (theoretical physicist)
Mark Rylance (actor in "BFG", "Ready Player One")
This group has comparatively less samples, so I will have less to say about it. In general we see some likeness to the seelie female examples, with Dr. Bob acting in the service of healing both the body and a marriage. Mr. Rogers displays a kind neighboriless and a guidance to young children. He plays a parental role, as does Dr. Bob. Mark Rylance also has a sweet grandfatherly vibe to him; a gnomish energy. Ben Carson is also a healer (doctor) of sorts. Parental encouragement seems to be a common motif; being a good father. We also do find a few politicians, as we'd expect, such as George W. Bush, David Axelrod and Peter Welch.
Overall, compared to the seelie female examples these have far less focus on the sensitivities of the heart, personal growth, vulnerability and love. But compared to the unseelie males, they certainly do show more promise in that direction. More samples will expand this section in the future.
"there's a forthrightness to them, an almost disarming lack of secrecy and willingness to broadcast one's life to the world. Topics touched generally have no bounds, and can include sex, periods, girlfriend/boyfriend issues, work, making money, drinking, life dreams, emotional problems, life disappointments and anything else. When Fi is highly individual it cares little for modesty which is a type of concealment of the authentic self. Being rather filter-less, this humanness is no doubt part of what attracts attention and an audience. But it's also the sort of revelation that off-beat Fi's seem to be more disposed to."
Hmm....I can kinda relate^ I have secrets and keeps lots of these things^ private, but the ones I do share, lots of people find too open! My old office mate told me I am transparent. Although...she didn't actually know me even half as much as she thought she did. In any case, reading this made me think of Liz Gilbert and her delicious memoir. She's the most transparent author I know. Her life is in her books and facebook posts and interviews! I've seen other authors comment about that quality to her. But she's not crass, it comes out super attractive. She's a buddy you don't actually know in real life.
“If every tiny flower wanted to be a rose, spring would lose its loveliness.”
that the ppl ended up being te+seelie+female+revisers as catergorized by CognitiveType (me, being able to recognise them somehow beforehand, stuck INFP mbti label on all of them) (so now, a catergory to know them by and compare)