Post by peppergirl on Jul 23, 2013 10:55:11 GMT -5
I remember when I was 14 or so at a school trip to Spain, I was with a NeFi FiNe friend and we had to go back to our new Spanish "home" in Madrid, we had spent time visiting and shopping around and then decided to go back because it was late. The problem is that we apparently didn't really remember the address, we confused the building with another one. We couldn't find the right one, basically we were lost. At first we stressed a bit, (there were no mobile phones at the time), so we looked for a street phone to call the woman who hosted us (in broken Spanish, we were very bad lol), we didn't really understand and went back to the wrong building. Then we thought of strategies to ask the inhabitants (we couldn't enter without a code, so one waited outside and another inside the building). It was pathetic lol. However, eventhough we stressed at first, it felt absurd and we couldn't help laughing all the time. I don't know if it's P-lead related or that we were too young and carefree to really care, and were 2... I don't know if I would find it funny if I was alone... We managed to find the right address, it was a good memory paradoxically. I wonder if a young J-lead would have taken it more seriously and stressed more.
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Sorry dear dearlings, but those things are not jungian type's related/territory, they have to do with other personality traits. Just like quadras have mothing to do with galaxies - only if we take those paralles as jokes for amusement purposes.
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Post by peppergirl on Jul 23, 2013 11:01:01 GMT -5
Well this is the Ejardeen thread, so I was talking about how someone not knowing CT can arrive at similar conclusions and found it interesting. I know it's not related to CT directly.
Post by peppergirl on Jul 23, 2013 11:05:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I think I kinda know how you are sometimes ^^ Lastima que seas la unica FiSe que conozca, no puedo comparar con otros. *showing off my bad Spanish*
Was it Arendee who tried to associate J-lead to type A personality? And P-leads with type B personality? Whoever came up with this, it is the biggest insane nonsensical crap I have ever heard in my whole life. (I know I was not supposed to be here. But someone had to say this. It happened to be me.)
I think it makes somewhat sense, J leads in my experience are type A. It won't apply to everyone though.
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Nah, maybe Je-leads, but I still dunno. sounds pure bullshit.
Me and 65% Ji-leads I know are hardcore type B personalities.
50% or so of P-leads type A.
it's blatantly NOT CT related.
Reagardless of their Ct, people who have 9 in the tritype and at the same time lack 3 in the tritype are almost bound to be type B. People who have both 8 and 3 in the tritype are almost bound to be type A. There are plenty of variations.
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Nah, maybe Je-leads, but I still dunno. sounds pure bullshit.
Me and 65% Ji-leads I know are hardcore type B personalitites.
But aren't Ji-leads perfectionists ? Perfectionism doesn't immediately mean being "type A", but I think it can result in a sort of focused hard working nature in comparison to P leads who just want to sit there being bored.
Nah, maybe Je-leads, but I still dunno. sounds pure bullshit.
Me and 65% Ji-leads I know are hardcore type B personalities.
50% or so of P-leads type A.
it's blatantly NOT CT related.
Reagardless of their Ct, people have 9 in the tritype and at the same time lack 3 in the tritype are almost bound to be type B. People who have both 8 and 3 in the tritype are almost bound to be type A. There are plenty of variations.
Yep, second this. I actually have both 9 and 3 in my tritype (as far as I can tell, I suck at enneagram so this is as much a guess as anything else. The 3's almost definite, as 2 and 4 are very much not me, but the 9 could be a 1 fairly easy) and am somewhere in between type B and A, it depends on the context. I am most definitely competitive, as I like objective measurements of my own skills, and I like and adhere to deadlines, as they're the best way of ensuring I actually do what I'm supposed to, but I'm not particularly confrontational and it takes a lot to get me riled up. So...I'm either A with B tendencies or B with A tendencies. But...we all know that personality typing hates/is confused by my brain. That said, I agree about Ji types being more likely to be B, and I imagine a lot of Pi-dom's in particular would be A. No statistics behind that, so it could be wrong, but based on theory it seems reasonable, as they're more interested in their world view. Heck, it may not even be CT related. ^_^
It would be good if things were so simple/simplistic.
Well I'm not sure J-lead being correlated with type A is simplistic. Is saying extroverts are more social simplistic ? Sure, because many extroverts even Fe-leads are complete loners. However that doesn't mean the correlation is completely unfounded or wrong. All I'm saying is that in my experience it makes sense. I might be wrong.
Also, don't you think enneagram is pretty simplistic ? Grouping people into categories leads to simplistic generalizations. Though in the case of enneagram they try to solve that by saying "oh well I am type A but I'm not completely perfectionistic you see because I am disintegrating to my 4 and I have 7 in my tritype". Or some other convoluted explanation.
Do you consider being the 379 tritype? That's the vibe I get from you. This tritype is highly ambitious but seeks comfort and pleasing ways to be successful. they are true diplomats. The 9 in this tritype wants hamony, the 3 wants success and the prize.
This tritype pretty much sits on the fence between type A and type B. My best chilhood friend (SeTi) was this tritype, with 3w2 leading, she was type A with lots of type B traits. She was very competitive but she wanted harmony and was easy-going, it smoothed her type A and type 3 traits. But she freaked out about things I was completely relaxed about, like grades and performance. To me, a day of test was the same as a walk in the park regardless of knowint the content or not (I'm a 479). It's really about deep motivations. I am perfeccionist but not focused on my performance or prize, so my perfeccionism doesn't affect my drive or level of stress or my level of zero-competitiveness, it's a very personal perfeccionism that might only make me throw in the garbage something I did and didn't like, I can get frustrated but it's in a personal inner sorrowful way for not being able to express my truth accordinly to my ideals, never in a stressed way. I'm saying these things to illustrate how subtle and complex these things are... And that being perfeccionist can be a trait completely detached from the gist of what type A is about. One of the closest friend I had in late teens and adulthood is an NeFi social 739. He's highly competitive but usually humanistic and easy-going. His high need for success and accomplishment is never bigger than his deep need for harmonic relating. He's at the same time laid-back and driven. I consider him type B with lots of type A traits.
Three tritypes who i believe to be likely to be type b: 479, 269, 459. Three tritypes who i believe to be likely to be type a: 378, 368, 358.
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