in my opinion, Adam is Te>Fi (loud voice, pretty evident sullen cheeks), and really extroverted, but i'm not sure for the p functions (sometimes, he does a Ni drift but i'm not sure of that).
For me he can be a TeNi.
Jamie is quite introvert. His dressing style suggest me a Si>Ne user, because of the traditionalism/oldschool, or simply the attention to the details in the way he dress. Plus, his eyes are really scattered but in a more relaxed way, and there is a sort of melancholy in his eyes. His speech is slow, but he doesn't make too much pauses, so here i can have some problems. Maybe one hidden signal (under his epic beard) is the Fi sullen cheeks, in this video is more evident.
Adam definitely has a lot of excitation/buoyancy, but it's of the playful and scattered flavor of Ne rather than the streamlined Se type. He also has warm Fe articulation - very warm actually - so much so he could even be Fe-lead, except it cools down far too easily and naturally via Ti, and it remains contained within the bubble of Pe energy. So that Pe energy is channeled through his Fe, making it more prevalent than it'd otherwise be. This video below's a great example of this Fe. As well as the Ne naive eyes:
Lots of emotional pushes. And his eyes would scrunch and blink a lot more (Si) in the vid above where he's reading off and answering questions, as one would expect. But even then, the energy of Ne jitters through. As for Jamie, the Te is the most obvious, and it's definitely high up. His eyes are more challenging to tell and at certain places they *could* look like Se. The thing is, they do connect with the environment but they don't pierce through it. They sometimes connect, and then the rest of the time they're falling inward, being protected via the sockets and blinking/deflecting. He's also got that viscosity of Pi-lead, and his articulation (Te) stays confined within the umbrella of that viscosity.
Unlike Feynman and other Te-leads, his Te doesn't seem to be him, it's moreso something he has as an extra. He has opinions, but he isn't his opinions (as it is with Ji/Je-leads). He is quite similar to a lot of the NiTe seen so far, in his specific flavor, though. But he does a lot more blinking than what I'd see in an Ni-lead, and his eyes have a sort of confused/plastered look to them. It's hard to explain but they look like.. paper cut-outs. It appears a bit in the SiTe video - a combination of Ne-confusion with a mild 'shock'-like appearance caused by the coating of Si concentration around that confusion.
Adam definitely has a lot of excitation/buoyancy, but it's of the playful and scattered flavor of Ne rather than the streamlined Se type. He also has warm Fe articulation - very warm actually - so much so he could even be Fe-lead, except it cools down far too easily and naturally via Ti, and it remains contained within the bubble of Pe energy. So that Pe energy is channeled through his Fe, making it more prevalent than it'd otherwise be. This video below's a great example of this Fe. As well as the Ne naive eyes:
Lots of emotional pushes. And his eyes would scrunch and blink a lot more (Si) in the vid above where he's reading off and answering questions, as one would expect. But even then, the energy of Ne jitters through. As for Jamie, the Te is the most obvious, and it's definitely high up. His eyes are more challenging to tell and at certain places they *could* look like Se. The thing is, they do connect with the environment but they don't pierce through it. They sometimes connect, and then the rest of the time they're falling inward, being protected via the sockets and blinking/deflecting. He's also got that viscosity of Pi-lead, and his articulation (Te) stays confined within the umbrella of that viscosity.
Unlike Feynman and other Te-leads, his Te doesn't seem to be him, it's moreso something he has as an extra. He has opinions, but he isn't his opinions (as it is with Ji/Je-leads). He is quite similar to a lot of the NiTe seen so far, in his specific flavor, though. But he does a lot more blinking than what I'd see in an Ni-lead, and his eyes have a sort of confused/plastered look to them. It's hard to explain but they look like.. paper cut-outs. It appears a bit in the SiTe video - a combination of Ne-confusion with a mild 'shock'-like appearance caused by the coating of Si concentration around that confusion.
This all sounds like an accurate analysis to me. I also typed Adam as NeTi. The brief first impression I got of Jamie was TeNi or NiTe, but upon looking at more videos I agree with the SiTe typing. His eyes are kind of hard to discern - being somewhat Se-like because of the toned-down effect of Si/Ne.
What type do you guys think Mr. Spock is? Not necessarily the character he plays, but the real life actor.. but the character could be interesting too =)
Yeah, I definitely agree with your Ni-lead conclusion. He leads his face with his eyes with a viscous, gliding movement and has a very Ni "trancing" gaze.
I think he's probably NiFe though. If you pay close attention to the way he talks, he has more of the emotional emphasis of Fe/Ti than the monotone speech of Te/Fi. He also has emotional warmth that cools down and then warms up again in several places throughout the second video. The kind of straight-forward, logical tone of his voice sounds more Ti in character to me than Te. It's not as blunt and snappy as Te usually comes across - if that makes any sense >.>
He has very heavy zone outs and his eyes are unblinking which makes me think he has Ni/Se. His face seems eye centric which would indicate a P-lead. In the first video, he neutralizes his facial expression many times like at 0:43; this is indicative of Ti/Fe. He seems to access his worldview more than use exploration, which makes me think Ni>Se. Of course if he is Ni>Se and has Ti/Fe, Fe would be the next function, therefore NiFe.
Post by TheLogicFan on May 2, 2013 19:51:16 GMT -5
Hmmm. I'm not sure about Ni/Se. In more recent videos of him (Leonard Nimoy), his eyes seem to rest in his head and he seems very detached from his environment. I also see Si searching scowl, dropping edges, Si concentration, excessive blinking and even Ne naive eyes. I do think he is Pe-lead, but I'm leaning towards SiFe for the moment.
Last Edit: May 2, 2013 19:52:44 GMT -5 by TheLogicFan
Yeah. What definitely hit me first was him being a JePi/PiJe user. He has that native assertiveness that also shows in people like Steve Jobs, Bruce Lee, and even a little in Morgan Freeman. Assertive, yet, personable in an almost fatherly way. He's also very prepared and 'knowing' which is the vibe that Ni+Fe elicits.
In the 1st video at 2:10 you can see a very warm interpersonal Fe smile, it lingers then suddenly neutralizes at around 2:16. Then there's a few Je cues (affirming headshakes/etc) and another Fe interpersonal smile at around 2:31. His points of emphasis are a bit 'faster' than other Fe users I've seen (i.e. they're more back-to-back, rather than taking their time in their swelling) which could be confused with Te, but none of the other Te/Fi signals are present while all the Ti/Fe signals are. Making him not the most straightforward NiFe, but definitely Fe.
TheLogicFan - Mmhm, there's that, but I suspect most of that is due to old age (i.e. drooping edges due to sagging skin, dry eyes). That's a factor that can be confusing sometimes and for that I generally try to view younger footage whenever possible, if clear enough. Actually, what might help is... in the second video, the interviewer himself is Si-lead, almost certainly imo. As the interview proceeds, try to see the difference between his eyes and Leonard. I wonder if you see a difference?
Yeah, I definitely agree with your Ni-lead conclusion. He leads his face with his eyes with a viscous, gliding movement and has a very Ni "trancing" gaze.
I think he's probably NiFe though. If you pay close attention to the way he talks, he has more of the emotional emphasis of Fe/Ti than the monotone speech of Te/Fi. He also has emotional warmth that cools down and then warms up again in several places throughout the second video. The kind of straight-forward, logical tone of his voice sounds more Ti in character to me than Te. It's not as blunt and snappy as Te usually comes across - if that makes any sense >.>
TheLogicFan - Mmhm, there's that, but I suspect most of that is due to old age (i.e. drooping edges due to sagging skin, dry eyes). That's a factor that can be confusing sometimes and for that I generally try to view younger footage whenever possible, if clear enough. Actually, what might help is... in the second video, the interviewer himself is Si-lead, almost certainly imo. As the interview proceeds, try to see the difference between his eyes and Leonard. I wonder if you see a difference?
Yeah, I can see the difference I think. After rewatching the videos again and looking at some other videos from that time, he definitely seem more like a Ni user. So I agree with NiFe.
First off I'd say Ni/Se > Si/Ne. His eyes are pretty steady and he has the zone out/lock on deal. I'd also say Fi/Te > Ti/Fe. Voice is pretty monotone and doesn't swell (Te) and also there's that Fi tension in his cheeks.
And here's where I'm guessing (even more): When he talks he seems a little slower and deliberate without the "snappy" Te so I'd guess Fi > Te So I'd tentatively say SeFi or FiSe (but I'd be saying it in that "I think so but I'm not sure so I'll say it like it's a question even though it isn't really" kind of way)
Also I have a few points of confusion. His body movements are very reserved which would say J > P , right? (maybe not) But he also looks, from what I can tell, like his eyes lead the rest of his face which would say P > J. Can you explain what I'm seeing/not seeing or where I'm going wrong?
Also, while his Fi looks higher than his Te to me, it also kind of looks like his Ni is higher than his Se. Some help clarifying this would be nice, too.
EDIT: and now I'm just second guessing all of my observations. Damn.
Haha, this is only the beginning! They're hundreds already standing at the door and hundreds more peering in the windows. No time to rest, no time to wait!
I agree with FeNi for Iyanla. Sheree Whitefield I see as maybe FeNi as well, or SeTi. Not sure about Bob.
How would an Fi type handle a confrontation like that?