Post by A on Jul 8, 2013 15:34:34 GMT -5
Sorry to post yet another thread to satiate my curiosity, but looking around the web I found this post (http://mbtitruths.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/functional-intelligence.html), correlating types of intelligence and cognitive functions. Fair warning though, the rest of the site is rife with misinformation, I just found this post interesting. I am dubious of some of them (such as naturalistic for Te. Te is a pretty badass function, I'm sure it's good for more than that) but was wondering if there were any connections in some of the others. Personally, my type is still in doubt, but here are where I'd say mine are. Later on, I'll check and see how I measure up. In parenthesis are the supposed correlated functions (the first being the given, the rest my own speculations), but as I said, I don't buy all of them and am not even sure that the two are related, as this may be more behavioral. I'm including my abilities from both now and as a child, as I know my skills have diversified as I've aged:
Spatial (Ni, I think maybe Se as well, which makes sense as they are a functional pair)- Low (child and adult). I have a poor sense of direction and rarely picture things in my head, preferring to reason out what it should look like or where it should be. I have poor spacial reasoning skills and always have. These have not improved markedly over time (relative to peers my own age. I'm sure it's still better than it was when I was 5).
Linguistic (Ne, although I could also see Fe/Te coming in here)- High (child and adult). I tend to think in words, so it's very easy for me to translate language into thoughts and vice versa. I learn well through reading and listening to lectures, although this is not always my favorite way (depending on the subject). I memorize best when I use words rather than pictures and I tend to be precise in my language, most of the time (although I am sick right now, so this may not be apparent in any of today's posts). I am able to easily pick up on grammatical errors despite having never formally learned the rules and excessive use of the word "like" drives me crazy.
Logical/Mathematical (Ti, although I think this could be Te or Si/Ni as well)- High (child and adult). This one has directly been tested, so I know that relative to the general population, my "standard IQ" is high. I am able to reason things out rapidly and with ease, possibly as a result of practice as much as inherent ability. I think this may also be related to my understanding of grammar, alongside linguistic intelligence, as I naturally absorbed the rules related to language while reading without conscious effort. I pick up on patterns naturally and quickly and am easily able to make abstractions and expand upon theories, although I lack the precision required for complex calculations (I know how to do them, I just make a lot of careless errors). And yes, I am good at math.
Kinesthetic/Bodily (Se)- Low (child), low-moderate (adult). My motor skills, both fine and otherwise, have always been poor. I have low muscle memory and, even today, am fully capable of tripping on nothing. I will never be quick to pick up physical tasks and am unlikely to ever reach a high degree of skill in most sports (I was the worst one at every sport I attempted in high school except for tennis, which I had been playing since I was seven years old and was still only average at). That said, my control over my body has improved as I've aged, as much through conscious effort as anything else. I'm still certainly on the low side, but it's nowhere near as noticeable and I'd say I'm somewhere close to average. Maybe. Optimistically. I can play sports I started while young and have practiced at, it simply takes me longer to learn and I will never be able to match someone with innate athleticism.
EDIT: Interestingly, as a kid, I THOUGHT I had great kinesthetic ability that had just gone untapped. I tried to learn how to walk very early, before I started talking, but I kept bumping into walls and couldn't really walk properly until I was two or three (according to those who watched me try). I fidgeted a lot, never sat still and assumed one day I'd just magically be a great athlete, not realizing until I was ten or so that I was utterly hopeless at most athletic endeavors, something any adult who had watched me could have informed me of far earlier. Got to love the arrogance of youth.
Musical (Si. I believe this could be related to Si, but I also see Se and I don't think all Si users have this, as it relies on more than just memory.)- Low (child and adult). I'm tone-deaf. I can comprehend the rules of music, and know how to read and write notes, but can't actually sing or play an instrument. I cannot compare notes beyond a general "higher or lower" and that only if they're played back to back. I may have been able to improve this with lessons, but I never attempted it and I doubt I ever would have been "good".
Interpersonal (Fe, although, once again, I doubt all Fe users have this)- Low (child), moderate (adult). This one I also had formally tested as a child, at the same time as my IQ. I know as a child, my interpersonal intelligence was fairly low, from both the numbers and my own experience. I struggled to make friends, didn't really understand others and would rather be off in my own little world most of the time. As I've grown up, however, I'd say I've managed to gain average social skills. I'm polite, generally kind and typically know when to keep my mouth shut. I've even managed to gain a degree of understanding of how other people work, admittedly through logic rather than intuition, but to the same effect. I'm certainly not cool, and when I tell others I'm considering getting a PhD or a MD their reaction is typically something along the lines of "yeah, I kind of figured" but I don't stick out either. I can now carry on a conversation with most people and get along fairly well with the majority of people I meet. I'm a little awkward, and often say the wrong thing, but there are people who seem to like me, apparently my energy makes me fun to be around, which is nice. I'm actually pretty proud of this one, as I worked hard to improve my interpersonal intelligence, both as a child and a young adult, and think this really shows that these intelligence levels aren't static and can be improved with effort. I took a test at reading the emotions in people's eyes online the other day and got exactly average for a healthy adult, so I think I've grown into the normal range and would say I'm essentially average. I still hate working with others, as if you want something done right, do it yourself, but at least I know how to manage it these days.
Intrapersonal (Fi, maybe Ti as well)- Moderate (?). I'm not really sure how to measure this one, as it's fairly personal and hard to see how others measure up. I have a well defined value system, which I've spent a good deal of time thinking about and refining, from the time I was a child and realized I didn't really believe in God to today, where I've realized alcohol, casual relationships and the general party scene just aren't for me. I have a decent understanding of my own strengths and pitfalls, although I can overestimate my abilities and weaknesses alike (I was shocked to realize my interpersonal skills were normal, for instance, as I've grown accustomed to thinking of them as poor). I'm not sure how well I understand my own feelings, as I don't often even realize I'm upset until after the fact and it sometimes takes me up to an hour to realize something's offended me, but I do know what drives me. I may lie to myself about some of my traits to improve my self-image, but I also know that my internal self-worth is important to me, as I like myself and want to continue liking myself. I'd say overall I have an average level of self-awareness.
Naturalistic (Te, but I'm not really sure this even is a type of intelligence, let alone correlated to a cognitive function)- I honestly have no idea. Which I guess means low? But it's not something I've ever even really thought about. Perhaps I just need a better definition. I like having a nice space around me, and can appreciate the beauty of my surroundings, but I'm fairly sure that's true of everyone. I just...really don't get this one, at all. Anyone who has it care to explain?
Spatial (Ni, I think maybe Se as well, which makes sense as they are a functional pair)- Low (child and adult). I have a poor sense of direction and rarely picture things in my head, preferring to reason out what it should look like or where it should be. I have poor spacial reasoning skills and always have. These have not improved markedly over time (relative to peers my own age. I'm sure it's still better than it was when I was 5).
Linguistic (Ne, although I could also see Fe/Te coming in here)- High (child and adult). I tend to think in words, so it's very easy for me to translate language into thoughts and vice versa. I learn well through reading and listening to lectures, although this is not always my favorite way (depending on the subject). I memorize best when I use words rather than pictures and I tend to be precise in my language, most of the time (although I am sick right now, so this may not be apparent in any of today's posts). I am able to easily pick up on grammatical errors despite having never formally learned the rules and excessive use of the word "like" drives me crazy.
Logical/Mathematical (Ti, although I think this could be Te or Si/Ni as well)- High (child and adult). This one has directly been tested, so I know that relative to the general population, my "standard IQ" is high. I am able to reason things out rapidly and with ease, possibly as a result of practice as much as inherent ability. I think this may also be related to my understanding of grammar, alongside linguistic intelligence, as I naturally absorbed the rules related to language while reading without conscious effort. I pick up on patterns naturally and quickly and am easily able to make abstractions and expand upon theories, although I lack the precision required for complex calculations (I know how to do them, I just make a lot of careless errors). And yes, I am good at math.
Kinesthetic/Bodily (Se)- Low (child), low-moderate (adult). My motor skills, both fine and otherwise, have always been poor. I have low muscle memory and, even today, am fully capable of tripping on nothing. I will never be quick to pick up physical tasks and am unlikely to ever reach a high degree of skill in most sports (I was the worst one at every sport I attempted in high school except for tennis, which I had been playing since I was seven years old and was still only average at). That said, my control over my body has improved as I've aged, as much through conscious effort as anything else. I'm still certainly on the low side, but it's nowhere near as noticeable and I'd say I'm somewhere close to average. Maybe. Optimistically. I can play sports I started while young and have practiced at, it simply takes me longer to learn and I will never be able to match someone with innate athleticism.
EDIT: Interestingly, as a kid, I THOUGHT I had great kinesthetic ability that had just gone untapped. I tried to learn how to walk very early, before I started talking, but I kept bumping into walls and couldn't really walk properly until I was two or three (according to those who watched me try). I fidgeted a lot, never sat still and assumed one day I'd just magically be a great athlete, not realizing until I was ten or so that I was utterly hopeless at most athletic endeavors, something any adult who had watched me could have informed me of far earlier. Got to love the arrogance of youth.
Musical (Si. I believe this could be related to Si, but I also see Se and I don't think all Si users have this, as it relies on more than just memory.)- Low (child and adult). I'm tone-deaf. I can comprehend the rules of music, and know how to read and write notes, but can't actually sing or play an instrument. I cannot compare notes beyond a general "higher or lower" and that only if they're played back to back. I may have been able to improve this with lessons, but I never attempted it and I doubt I ever would have been "good".
Interpersonal (Fe, although, once again, I doubt all Fe users have this)- Low (child), moderate (adult). This one I also had formally tested as a child, at the same time as my IQ. I know as a child, my interpersonal intelligence was fairly low, from both the numbers and my own experience. I struggled to make friends, didn't really understand others and would rather be off in my own little world most of the time. As I've grown up, however, I'd say I've managed to gain average social skills. I'm polite, generally kind and typically know when to keep my mouth shut. I've even managed to gain a degree of understanding of how other people work, admittedly through logic rather than intuition, but to the same effect. I'm certainly not cool, and when I tell others I'm considering getting a PhD or a MD their reaction is typically something along the lines of "yeah, I kind of figured" but I don't stick out either. I can now carry on a conversation with most people and get along fairly well with the majority of people I meet. I'm a little awkward, and often say the wrong thing, but there are people who seem to like me, apparently my energy makes me fun to be around, which is nice. I'm actually pretty proud of this one, as I worked hard to improve my interpersonal intelligence, both as a child and a young adult, and think this really shows that these intelligence levels aren't static and can be improved with effort. I took a test at reading the emotions in people's eyes online the other day and got exactly average for a healthy adult, so I think I've grown into the normal range and would say I'm essentially average. I still hate working with others, as if you want something done right, do it yourself, but at least I know how to manage it these days.
Intrapersonal (Fi, maybe Ti as well)- Moderate (?). I'm not really sure how to measure this one, as it's fairly personal and hard to see how others measure up. I have a well defined value system, which I've spent a good deal of time thinking about and refining, from the time I was a child and realized I didn't really believe in God to today, where I've realized alcohol, casual relationships and the general party scene just aren't for me. I have a decent understanding of my own strengths and pitfalls, although I can overestimate my abilities and weaknesses alike (I was shocked to realize my interpersonal skills were normal, for instance, as I've grown accustomed to thinking of them as poor). I'm not sure how well I understand my own feelings, as I don't often even realize I'm upset until after the fact and it sometimes takes me up to an hour to realize something's offended me, but I do know what drives me. I may lie to myself about some of my traits to improve my self-image, but I also know that my internal self-worth is important to me, as I like myself and want to continue liking myself. I'd say overall I have an average level of self-awareness.
Naturalistic (Te, but I'm not really sure this even is a type of intelligence, let alone correlated to a cognitive function)- I honestly have no idea. Which I guess means low? But it's not something I've ever even really thought about. Perhaps I just need a better definition. I like having a nice space around me, and can appreciate the beauty of my surroundings, but I'm fairly sure that's true of everyone. I just...really don't get this one, at all. Anyone who has it care to explain?