Post by tobyspringfield on May 6, 2017 5:35:03 GMT -5
I have a question. So the anima and animus, are they like in us when we are born, or do they like get formed simultaneously as we form our types and get aware of ourselves more? And lets say a person of a different sexual orientation like will their anima/mus be the same gender as them or will they still have an opposite gender anima/us?
I think to answer that first it helps to define what these gender differences consist of, which this video does a great job of summarizing.
Gender differences don't show up in humans until around puberty, and the onset of hormonal changes causes both physical and psychological changes. This naturally creates different environmental stressors for each sex. Suddenly it becomes the 'duty' (per se) of the male to be the pursuer, and self-consciousness begins to set in regarding women and their capacity to swoon. And suddenly women may begin to feel threatened by men and their newfound strength, but also allured by them at the same time. This real-life drama is essentially the anima/animus dynamic. It'll show up most obviously when it's really in effect.
When the archetypes constellate in our dreams (for instance) they will inform us of what wider thematic struggle we are amidst, and which our current life situation represents. So they'll match our sex because our sex produces those dramas.
As for shifts in sexual orientation.... What I've come to know (and this isn't obvious, though implied in Jung's work) is that both sexes have the psychic constellations of the anima and animus within them. Which is also evident in how we all potentially experience the Father and Mother archetypes, which are variants of the two. The one that most prominently shows up to you is the one that encapsulates your personal drama.
So I would postulate that someone like an FiNe 4 male may experience more personal affiliation/familiarity with the anima archetype, it's virtues and nature. And the animus concept and nature may seem more foreign to him. Proportional to how divorced a psychic element is from our ego, it will appear mysterious or mystical to us when it constellates cognitively. We can integrate both but we start on one end of the spectrum.
Still, one will start out directly tied to our ego in a very somatic way. A straight male automatically ego-associates to the Animus, to the idea of penetration, causing them to chase the Anima. And vice versa. I do suspect gay people start out with the opposite archetype constellated mentally, due to their opposite desire to penetrate/be-penetrated.
But this is only my $0.02 from the bit I've gathered.
Collo posted this video the other day, and it's also flowing with symbolism.
This is actually a double embedding, of an Animus story within an Anima story.
Another iteration of the Animus (the most primal, actually) is as a giant beast. In the same was as with the wild bull/horse/cowboy, the woman tries to tame the masculine principle, which is embodied as some domineering beast. Two such stories that capture this are King Kong and Beauty and the Beast.
...Where a maiden falls in love with a monster and tames it. Doing what no one else can. It's essentially the same story.
In the Tame Impala video, the anima (the blone girl) has run off with the Animus (Gorilla/Trevor). Meanwhile the anima remains elusive to the boy protagonist. The anima here is choosing the animus over the boy. This is the same story we see in Guilty Crown, where Inori (Anima) remains in the possession of Guy (Animus) while our whimpy male protagonist fails to win over Inori.
This is part of the self-consciousness felt by males. You know how you hear guys complain how "girls only want jerks"? It's essentially this dynamic at play, where the feminine principle --especially right near puberty when it's most raw and infantile-- is attracted to the most base male representations. So the muscly, aggressive men (or often men far older than the teen girl's age range) will be the ones pursued by them, while their male peers are ignored because they've not yet become real men.
Meanwhile the anima/blonde remains elusive, teasing the boy along saying "wait ten years, we'll be together". This is folly. In the mind of the anima, a real man would pursue her and take her away from the beast. His relinquished acceptance "better late than never" is part of the reason the anima remains in pursuit of Trevor and not him.
At the end of the film, when the boy punctures a hole through Trevor, that represents him stepping into his manhood by overcoming the Animus projection of the woman.