Post by champagne_dad on Mar 29, 2016 17:53:01 GMT -5
FKA twigs has always struck me as a beta type, most likely Tise, but she could also be a gamma type..except for the fact that has a neutral face most of the time and her smiles are rather brief, not to mention her brief Ti gesticulations. Although I could be misinterpreting these signals. To add on to that, her lyrics are formed by her rather vulnerable and deeply emotional landscape.
hmm...
thoughts?
Last Edit: Mar 29, 2016 18:22:51 GMT -5 by champagne_dad
Post by ayoungspirit on Mar 30, 2016 9:28:12 GMT -5
Indeed, this is an interesting debate !
I think we can agree on her using Se-Ni as a secondary oscillation. Her gaze is quite conspicuously hypnotic, and it seems to alternate between drifting to the side, with a far-focus, and looking steadily in front of her, with swift glimpse upside. I did not catch a scowl, which could mean that, even though Ni appear to be quite pronounced, it is quite easy-going. Beside, her presence overall feel heavier than for a Ne-user, and one can sometimes observe a discrete but definitively more intense look, a bit like with fellow JiSe Norman Chan.
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I say secondary oscillation, because her posture seems to me quite symptomatic of a Ji-lead, which may retrospectively explain the lack of liveliness in the eyes. The posture is rigid, even uptight in the more reflective moments. The gesticulation tends to stay close to the body and recede toward it when it is not frozen in place. It is as if the upper arms were glued to the torso, whereas her speech lags in a similar manner to her movements.
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From there, deciding between Ti and Fi can appear a bit more difficult. It is true that, if we exclude a somewhat permanently raised upper lip, which could also be a coincidental feature, there is not much apparent tension on the face. The smile itself is not very characteristic, albeit it can launch into something like a giggle. The emotional subtlety of a singer's voice, and the thoughtfulness of Fi, could also be enough to obfuscate the tone and rhythm, even though it has a general deadpan quality to it, and is not much contrasted by moments of clear communicative warmth.
What is more clearly inciting me to balance toward Fi, as you probably are suspecting now, is the body motion. "Brief gesticulation", as you are calling it, is usually more indicative of Te, especially when it is this terse. Finger are tense, strained, as if they where crunching or cutting through something, whereas Ti exacting gesture are sometimes so delicate, they are referred as "puppeteer hands".
But the key element to me is the recurring micro-shake from left to right, which we sometimes refer as "sassy swaying". Even though it is hard to capture on still images, it is easily observable on the head, or the shoulders, which wiggle dismissively. While not exactly asynchronous, the different body parts move in opposite direction from each other, giving a slightly displaced, disjointed allure to it.
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I used a more dedicated interview to make my assessment, but the performance you shared illustrates an artistic focus on vivid imagery and personal feeling which is quite reminiscing of the "indie artist" shade of the FiSe as described in the book. This development has been similarly attributed, with perhaps a little less edge perhaps, to musical artists BjΓΆrk and Enya.
Last Edit: Mar 30, 2016 9:56:52 GMT -5 by ayoungspirit
Post by champagne_dad on Apr 9, 2016 20:06:38 GMT -5
I was actually going to use that video as well lol. Her idea for her school dance performance where she dresses up as a slave was really cool, like provacative and intense for a rather juvinile event. But yeah I like where you're going with this, I mean considering her music and overall creative ethos she could be FiSe. But could it also be that she has a really heavy Ti thats influencing her overall cadance and movement? I'm asking this because I really cant pinpoint any accidental snarls and such, and her smile seems to stop as soon as it starts, indicating neutralization? Not to mention the fact that she has no Fi when she smiles? As you may have noticed I'm still on the fence and am confused when solidifying her type...
Last Edit: Apr 9, 2016 20:08:44 GMT -5 by champagne_dad
I was actually going to use that video as well lol. But yeah I like where you're going with this, I mean considering her music and overall creative ethos she could be FiSe. But could it also be that she has a really heavy Ti thats influencing her overall cadance and movement? I'm asking this because I really cant pinpoint any accidental snarls and such, and her smile seems to stop as soon as it starts, indicating neutralization? Not to mention the fact that she has no Fi when she smiles? As you may have noticed I'm still on the fence when solidifying her type...
@champagne_dad, I watched the video you posted on the day you posted it and I was 100% for beta, but I didn't have time to reply or elaborate. I don't have time to do this now either but I hope to come back here to say why I think she's TiSe (and I don't rule out SeTi or FeNi as options (even if I am more for Ti-lead) but I have to watch the video again and more carefully when I come back to this thread). I did that in a haste, but no doubt here about her being beta. ;P