An open invititation to NeFi discussion.

Alright, I've put some thought into it and I've figured out what our first step should be.

First off the list is a time and place for the discussion to happen. Since we are just brainstorming ways to build a profile and topics to cover it is a good opportunity to get organized. This thread can be used as a jumping point for determining the time and place.

My vote is for Skype group chat once a week. It can be text or voice or this offers a freedom to move between the two mediums.

Google hangout would be good as well.

Hi, skuagrey! I am trying to remember about that. As far as I can remember, as a kid I liked to play games both alone and with other kids, with no preference toward one of these options. I could (and still can) spend a lot of time by myself, I enjoy my company. Since I was a kid I've had a strong introspective side. I remember since little (maybe 5 or 6 years old) being in bed before sleeping reflecting upon all the experiences of the day and of my life, stablishing connections between them and how they affected me and unconsciously trying to extract some lesson/wisdom from them about life and about myself. It was as if I felt in real time, while in bed reflecting, that those reflections were changing me and making me visit new places and colors of my subjective self, it was an experience of self-discovery that I felt, it was almost physical in its untouchable reality, as I felt those things forming some crazy abstract images and forms in mind and in my internal body that I knew that were as real and important as objective reality.  I now understand that by doing that every night I was giving symbolic representation to the events of my day. It was like  a time for refreshing or disk defrag of my pyche, trying to give personal meaning to them and integrate them to myself.

Bach to the games thing, I've known two NeFi'S that simply have a hard time being alone and that always favor being with others than alone. The type of group games that I hated as a kid are sports games, as I have always been non-physical and used to find games like that pointless, meaningless and boring. I was afraid of hurting other kids if I chased the ball in a ball game and was afraid of getting hurt as I have ectomorphic and delicate body constitution, not physically athletic/strong, I used to be skinny from 5 years old on. I felt I was also a bit physically slightly uncoordinated, but I am not sure if that was more a sort of impression I had or if I was only completely uninterested  in playing games with attention in PE, not even trying (because when dancing i was more coordinated, even if a bit uninterested in that but then I was not afraid of hurting kids or getting hurt. I guess that having to engage with my body to perform any activity, like sports, dancing, required being in touch with a dimension of myself I was still disconnected from, it was as if I hadn't fully incarnated in my body XD). During sports games, Iused to daydream and be out of the place, finding all the sports games boring and pointless, not even trying to engage with the moment or perform decently. I couldn't care less if my team would win or lose. XD in those moments I felt like a soul without a body, ready to desincarnate from a world 'where kids take seriously the stupidity of running after a ball for the sake of winning a game when there are so many other places to be that are interesting'. The boring thing there was probably I, actually. Lol. 

What about you, Medaers? It seems that the intersection so far is that both skuagrey and I weren't very prone to be anchored in the moment (?), maybe? Sensing that something more interesting and meaningful/adultlike could be happening around the corner? I was not an adultlike child, I guess, nor preferred the company of people older than me, I enjoyed being a kid in my own way (I fricking loved being alive and being a kid felt great) but I was a sort of little philosopher at times if compared with most of my little friends, and in search for child activities that I found meaningful and fun at the same time, depth and fun were valued. I was definitely prone to disconnect from physical reality. Even nowadays I at least twice a year have the very weird/psychotic sensation that I am in a place that I am trying to capture as real and I am not there at the same time, as if part of myself was outside of my body, and only less than half of myself was in me. It is a freaking weird sensation. I wonder if it has to do with ego-identification with Ne. Do u relate to that?

I wonder if it is ever possible for an Ne-lead to have conscious Si as a kid. I would like to hear from you about that. I can see it was operating in me, sometimes even frenetically, but it was unconscious (and still is or at least subconscious, hopefully, nut possibly not). I had the habit of spending lots of time memorizing the dictionary and investigating the words in it, comparing/contrasting the meaning of words, classifying them in noun, verb, adjective, etc. storing their meaning in details, their definitions, how the words were formed, their spelling and sound. My interest in foreign languages is a continauation of that and I like to study foreign words in a very detailed way ( which suprises people, as I have a more global approach to most things ) taking notes of their ethimology, paying attention to pronunciation charts, characteristcs of intonation, storing these things with taste and patience. I was interested in trivias and had an excellent access to that storage, my grandma often commented about that. But still, it seems to me Si was unconscious if I see how I experienced life as a whole. Ne and Fi were either subsconscious or conscious and Te was unconscious.

This might be a cool place to start - comparing ourselves to common ideas about us, busting any inaccurate stereotypes, etc.  S'worth a shot, in my opinion.



I identify with the Gentle Spirit archetype, actually - 9w1 7w6 4w3 (I'm not sure whether 7 or 9 is my core), probably so/sx. Used to think 3w4 was in there, but then I realized I'm not a very ambitious person at all, and I care far more about individualism and art. It's a toss-up between 9 and 7 for me because while I'm deeply afraid of being trapped (e.g. in a shitty routine) and my main desire is to have fun and happiness in my life, I hate conflict and I've always dealt with my problems by withdrawing from the real world (something I hear is uncharacteristic of core 7s). Perhaps a video would lend some insight into that dilemma? I don't know if my old video would help, though, because I was only 16 then and I feel I've changed quite a bit over the past three years.



As for this question, I very much identify as seelie (even though I have odd moments of unseelie-ness now and then, particularly when confronted with outrageous and stubborn stupidity). I see the world, for the most part, as a wonderful place where good things happen everyday and no bad thing lasts forever. :3

Yay! So let's starttttt? I am going to post the profile. Rualani, post the one u mentioned too, if u can.


ps: lmao the name of the group: medaer wonderland.   Awesome.
Butttt... people, I honestly have no time to join a group of discussion this year. I won't be able to contribute or even read or take part in calls at all, etc. honestly. But I hope other Medaers gather in, join the group and create some interlactic cataclisms with rain of popsicles, or at least something cooler than that.

Edit: here it is... cognitivetype.boards.net/thread/1236/nefi-descriptions

rualani , yesyes, google does ask!

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Just made this forum about Medaers, named Medaer, that we can devote to this fascinating *cough* type and welcome  people of other types interested in understanding better and participate in discussions and provide insights about us. It is possible to have a locked section in the forum  for the profile discussions... for the identity preservation thing u raised. 

 medaer.boards.net/

@morsecode - Loving the forum idea! I like your categories ^^ and how tailored it is to the Medaer personal experience. This makes me think that, a forum like that could really develop a community where deep/meaningful insights are finally gained about the type.

(in my experience... the problem I had with forums like INTPforum, is that more than half the members were mistyped. I'm guessing it's the same elsewhere. So the conversations ("What's it like to be [x]?") rarely reflect the real opinions/truths of the specific type, and I never learned enough about my type... even after years of being there. I still feel quite lacking.)

The existing typology forums are clusters of people coming together from general attitudes (N,F,T,S), which lends some degree of resonance, but lacks a lot of really meaningful insights, especially about function development, grips, individuation, etc.

Weirdly, NeFi's don't even have a very active type forum of their own, even though they're a huge demographic!... due to typing as INFJ and INFP and lurking those forums. I'd be awesome to see what's possible when a group of all rightly-typed types come together. Maybe very accurate manuals for how to master being yourself. truly relevant (dating/career/life) advice. who knows


edit: I see that alemin.boards.net is also available! we have a decent TiNe population here. maybe a biosphere for the Alemin could also be made. unfortunately i don't have the time to manage another forum... but if my fellow TiNe wanted to start one, i'd be lurkin' about for sure.