Hi, nice site, nice forum, nice you tube channel. I've opened this thread because i want to ask you guys (and others in the future) to type some famous celebs, and increase the list.
I start with Trent Reznor: young
adult (middle age)
I was thinking INTJ, so... NiTe? For what i've seen in the visual reading videos i can see: Dead face, poor of facial expressions, except for some smiles, the Fi type, i think. The monotone vocal articulation Some quick eyebrow raises In the young video i see some sassy swaying
But he don't have locked-on eyes, he is costantly looking on the sides and only a couple of times watch the interviewer in the eyes. I think, knowing his personality, he does this because of his discretion, he doesn't share his personal life, and he don't want others to know his personal affairs, like a wall that the interviewer can't cross.
Zomg member! Hi there, you wouldn't happen to be hasen519 would you? Either way, welcome.
Sure, I'll take a look. I'll write down my thoughts as they come:
- First I see that he's definitely being lead by his eyes (P-lead) in the first video. He's got strong fluidity of body, and his body glides/drifts very readily. The eyes consume his focus and he seems to be inescapably steered by them. His posture doesn't have the rigidity of J-leads, but moreso he has the dense viscosity of Pi-leads. Each movement has more Inertial force than Momentum force. - Looking at the quality of his eyes, they're definitely Ni/Se, with very clear Ni dominance in his case. Steady drifting, eyes don't blink much (because he's constantly zoned-out). - His articulation is tricky. His voice takes a while to construct each sentence, but then he seems to speak the sentence fairly rapidly with a nonchalance that suggests Te. But from another angle, at every ending of a word/sentence his voice trickles down softly in that Fe way. I'll postpone judgment on Fe-vs-Te for now and keep watching. - He does do some pauses that have a complete neutrality, and his hands are somewhat dense and the wrists are largely stiff. - Second video shows him doing a bit more pausing, but I see a different now. Yes, I see.. Mmmm, looked at a couple other videos of him on YT, and I think you are correct. He's NiTe, but should this be mistaken he can only otherwise be NiFe. (I like to keep a bit of reservation, caution, rather than jumping the gun.)
A few notes about him.. His psychology definitely mirrors that of Ni-dominance. It's actually quite a heavy-Ni, so much so that he's lead by the flow of Ni into the future without much deliberation. That's one common theme in P-leads, as they lack a calculated frame of principles from which they'd otherwise turn left or right in light at every intersection, but instead flow with the causality of the subtle changes in dynamics --- leading them often into lifestyles they didn't intend to have, or are in far longer than they wished. Trent has this sense about him and how he describes his life is very fluid. He ended up here, then ended up there, and before he knew it he was older, and so then he felt like transitioning over-there, etc.
Yeeah, so I've guessed right no, I'm not hasen519 (I've read some of his comments in youtube), my youtube account is "Filippo Medas", and I think I am an NiTe Too. I'm not good in english (i'm learning), if i make some grammar mistakes please let me know .
I have another guy to type, Thom Yorke:
In that particular case i'm really confused, i need to see more visual reading videos! I was thinking INFP (FiNe?), but i'm not sure. in the first video he is "the only guy who don't wear a suit" and "the only who have red pants". In some interviews is clear that he doesn't like to talk about himself to others, that video is pretty amazing:
0:45 he is really irritated by the question, biting his lower lip, and look to the side, keeping his tension for himself. "why you don't answer the question?" "because is our business, i have problems to people asking this questions" then he become more aggressive and cut off another question, starting to explain why he doesn't like that questions "because is a fucking waste of time" stop the video to 2:27, he is really irritated but it isn't that clear, his eyebrows are just in a normal state, instead the eyes are really communicative, slightly narrowed like "I'll keepan eye on you for the rest of the day". So, that suggest Fi?
Then, he does a lot of pauses, sometimes he say one word at time, like he is processing every single word before he says one, he move the eyes randomly (Ne+Si for what i've seen in the TiNe video). In that case i'm not that sure, simply because i don't know the particular signals of a FiNe, i can be wrong. The only thing that i'm sure: he is absolutely not a sensor.
Ah, this one is more clear. Good choice to work from.
0:45 he is really irritated by the question, biting his lower lip, and look to the side, keeping his tension for himself. "why you don't answer the question?" "because is our business, i have problems to people asking this questions" then he become more aggressive and cut off another question, starting to explain why he doesn't like that questions "because is a fucking waste of time" stop the video to 2:27, he is really irritated but it isn't that clear, (...), that suggest Fi?
Then, he does a lot of pauses, sometimes he say one word at time, like he is processing every single word before he says one (...)
These statements are spot on. What you're sensing is the Fi protectiveness, being defended by Te's blunt and quick manner. The brief, abrupt sentences are also coated with the same Te's dismissiveness. He's channeling Te through his Fi. An Fi user's values are incredibly private and they're very particular about when and why they share information. You're correct again, he's Fi-lead.
His pauses are when he goes into his Introverted Judgment (Ji) process. It's similar to Ti, but his face never becomes neutral. There is a lingering tension on his face at all times; a mild sort of upset, as if he's close to tears. He also pauses and disengages his eyes down frequently and his body loses energy as he does so, which is also indicative of Ji-lead.
However, I'm pretty certain he uses Ni, and rather strong Ni. His eyes drift and zone-out continually and have a sharp quality to them. They do jitter a little, but not enough to be auxiliary-Ne. Dom/aux Ne is a lot more fluid. Instead the level of jittering his eyes do is what's normal for Se/Ni eyes.
His thought pattern also follows the Ni/Se rhythm. He's overall not scattered or buoyant in the optimistically-curious way Ne is. He's quite dense, actually, and the weight of his strong-Ni even ties down a lot of his Se's animation.
The only thing that i'm sure: he is absolutely not a sensor.
Mmm, but he's an FiSe with heavy Ni. In reality we're all sensors and intuitors, and he does seem to fancy his Ni more than other FiSe, which is what I think you may have been seeing. But to automatically ascribe Ne to him as secondary simply because "he must not be a sensor" is silly... ...there are other ways to explain the "N"ness and it has to be discerned which of the two it is. I used the same signals to tell apart Trent as Ni dom, as I used to tell apart Thom as Ni-tertiary. ^^
I do apologize though, as I need to find good examples of FiNe. All the examples I have are intermediate/difficult reads! Or real-life reads that I don't have footage on-hand from. But in the meantime, here's another example of an NeFi, who will show the same functions as FiNe, so many of the signals are the same. It may help to get a sense of the differences in the eyes?
Mmm, but he's an FiSe with heavy Ni. In reality we're all sensors and intuitors, and he does seem to fancy his Ni more than other FiSe, which is what I think you may have been seeing. But to automatically ascribe Ne to him as secondary simply because "he must not be a sensor" is silly... ...there are other ways to explain the "N"ness and it has to be discerned which of the two it is. I used the same signals to tell apart Trent as Ni dom, as I used to tell apart Thom as Ni-tertiary. ^^
ups, i think you're right I've said that he couldn't be a sensor (and with sensor i mean the Se/Si in the first two functions) because he seemed really childish in his demeanour, but this can also be a sign of some nevrosis, when he done the third and the second interview he was probabilly depressed, this times he is more confident than before
example, one of the lastest interviews:
I think the Ni is pretty clear in this video
And now I've understand much more the Ne visual reading.
Regarding Linus, for what i see (and i know), for the moment, I see... maybe... Fe? At the moment i don't know, i trust Erifrail