I see a clear beta with very relaxed eyelids (but suspended surrounding ocular muscles), a generally steady gaze, lots of Pi-drifting, and a relatively reserved demeanor/posture... so NiFe? I'm open to the possibility of her being another beta type (potentially TiSe-Ni, I see a lot of Ji), but am pretty sold on her quadrant.
Thanks for responding Collo! I was pretty sure of her quadrant but you have given me something to chew on. I may have rushed on her eyes, which I agree are a bit ambiguous, and the heavy eyelids could be unrelated to Ni. Her damn hair is always in front of her eyebrows too . I'm still leaning Se-Ni honestly, but feel much less sure now. I'm going to try to find more good footage of her before saying anything more definitive about her vultology. The NiFe typing felt off to me (which I guess is why I made this thread), she looks unlike most Ni-leads, but I was having a hard time seeing anything else as more likely.
The degree of Pi-signals I see though (side-drifts alone) seems very high for a Ne-lead, so I might be more likely to go for your alternate (FeSi). But then her psychology seems primarily introverted to me, not just in the colloquial sociability sense. She seems to withdraw and reflect more than engage or push (and I see this reflected in her vultology). But SiFe would be odd, considering her lack of scowls, and TiNe seems even less likely... Her psychology also seems very much irrationally based (as in perception-lead) to me, but this is harder to pin down, and my impression is liable to be way off (not that you disagreed with that anyway, as your first guess was also P-lead).
I don't know...some high Si users can be tricky for me if they happen to not be heavy scowlers...maybe that's happening here? I've also known very few NeTi personally (I have one close NeTi friend and he is male), so they're a bit of a blind-spot for me, especially females.
The pushed eyes and lax eyelids are probably anatomical. Watching more closely, and other interviews, she does seem to toggle in more of an Ne way, with some sparse Si scowls. And I think I was confusing a lot of her Ti-disengagement with Pi.
I think her extra reserved demeanor combined with clear P-lead signals made me think Pi-lead, but she is not quite inertial, nor are her eyes that fixed.
I need more exposure to this type... Most of the Pe-leads I know personally have Fi, so I tend to conflate their extra layer of jittery giddiness with their Pe-lead signals, gives me a hard time with PeTi, especially when heavy on Ti or Pi.
Thanks for the help!
Some interviews that also helped if anyone cares hehe:
Don't mean to muddle the waters here but... I do agree more generally with sitbone 's original assessment.
(i think i may have given too much emphasis on facial muscle contractions, and not enough on energy.) (it's admittedly so much harder to quantify energy but i'll give it a go.)
So I don't see her being an Ne-lead very easily because (face aside) she lacks: -- Ne's quality of 'suspended animation' (it's a cartoony sort of levity/buoyancy) -- The 'sparkle' in Ne's eyes; which carry some curiosity and also naivete. She doesn't have that signal
Instead she has the signals of: -- Se/Ni 'gravity', which gives a sinking certainty to the posture and psyche -- lack of buoyancy, although there's a kind of dynamic energy to her; it's not 'buoyant'
i see her as a TiSe, somewhat similar to Kristen Stewart. There is some eye toggling but her mind itself isn't divergent It stays on the forward stream related to the thought at hand. Rather than branching and branching with naive curiosity.
There's a lot of receding energy in her. Her posture feels withdrawn. Although I could be wrong. But this is just my $0.02
Also, wow. Elizabeth Olsen looks so TiNe sometimes. Especially in that video.