a few highlights form the chat i felt were worth preserving:
Cheese, who is most likely NeTi, on having Ne:
Cheese: The indecision isn't fun, it's crippling. The worst thing is having someone else there with you watch you struggle and then get annoyed with you for it.
Toby: Oh wow really. Then I have to stop telling my friend to just make her mind up already. Must really suck for her
Cheese: That might be good, though I don't really know whether she personally minds.
Toby: But Ne is it like you see all the possibilities and have no idea what to choose or like you are unaware of which may be the best? I sometimes struggle to grasp the thought process
cheese: Hmm It's both of those, yeah I think a lot of Ne types feel frustrated by opportunity cost
Toby: Then I think Auburn was right. Ne types may need conductors to help them make decisions just like revisers will help conductors get out of tunnel vision and see a better option I can admit I have tunnel vision sometimes. Until I am prompted I am simply unaware of the alternatives
Cheese: Hm just made an interesting connection. I like high Ne types because they seem generally more accepting/more open. There's less judgement (on humour, experiences, thoughts, etc). Watching Ne denounce something as "unacceptable" feels like some final death knell shit.
Cheese: They're good at generating possibilities, not narrowing them down to one linear life path. Each big choice represents a narrowing of sorts, the opposite of what they're good at. so they tend to make choices and not really commit because it feels less scary than imagining a looong future based on this one choice. Not committing or deferring decisions means your possibility branches haven't really fallen off.
Cheese: Continuing on Ne - I think with making choices there's also the fear of making a wrong choice. Each choice represents not only narrowing but so many potential mishaps as a result. Maybe there's only one choice that'll actually work out, but how can you possibly know it for sure when your whole life is about not knowing? So your whole possibility tree could be linked to a million other fucked trees, and you're supposed to find the one branch that'll take you down the one path that isn't fucked. But finding that one branch is a needle-in-a-haystack situation. It'll take forever to analyze every possibility to death and imagine all future possible scenarios and then sort them logically. So you freeze.
A snippet on N > S general attitude:
HIGS Lots of Se types literally find me retarded I noticed lol And Si types are like wtf is wrong with you a lot as well They have superpowers imo
cheese Yeah! I have some pretty serious deficits in noticing basic shit that other people absorb without even thinking about it Or doing basic shit too
(Actually I'm unusually terrible even for an N but shh)
smolgyal for sure like my SeFi frien notices so many different things abt her surroundings that im completely oblivious towards shes really smart too
cheese Yeah I can go the same route every day for years and not notice street names
smolgyal lool same
cheese I've lived in 2 different countries for years each and couldn't take visiting friends around because I had no idea where anything was
smolgyal im so bad at remembering names but ill know what that street looks like i find its a trade off for me being very visual
cheese I'll recognise it when I see it only :/
smolgyal ^ @cheese are u me??? like i can show u where to go only bc i remember what it looks like but if u ask abt the name and other technicalities ill be like sorry wut
I generally don't notice street names or notice landmarks. If I give directions, it's the bare minimum. Some times, I can't give directions, but I get where I'm going just fine. People who like details sometimes have a difficult time trusting my ability to get to and fro.
If I know what I want, I'm extremely impulsive about wanting it now. Many times the thing I've mentally settled on isn't a real world possibility. On the other hand, there are many, many times I agonize over decisions because saying yes to one thing is saying no to all others. In other people's situation, I can narrow things down to a few important factors, but in my own life, I have a hard time giving up the many possibilities. What could be is more interesting than what is or what will be.