Now that the 16 raw footage series is almost complete, at mystery 's request, we're gonna do a little quick 5 sample test. To see if our collective consensus has increased.
To participate, make a post saying "I'm in" and I'll message you the list of 5 samples. This is to avoid bandwagoning answers with other members, and really giving an isolated analysis of your present thoughts. From there, submit your reply as a response to the PM, with the reasoning for your readings if you'd like.
After 36 hrs the test will be closed, and I'll make a post with the results.
Scoring
There will be two score values given per person.
5 Point Score: This will measure how many out of the 5 were correct down to the exact type.
20 Point Score: This will measure how close your readings came to the proper type. Here, each of the ten samples has multiple points, not just one. So guessing FiNe for an NeFi will be 3/4 points correct. These points are:
1 Point = Correct Perception Pair 1 Point = Correct Judgment Pair 1 Point = Correct J-Lead/P-Lead 1 Point = Correct JiPe vs JePi
A Few Guidelines
Please don't post your guesses on this thread itself.
Please refrain from discussing the samples with other members until after you've submitted your answers.
Look at other videos outside of the ones provided when you need more perspective.
As with last time, I'd like to treat this as an exercise in consensus where my views are just one among all of them, as I've definitely been wrong before, so the point counts are more of a formality than anything; subject to change based on consensus/criteria. But here's how it came up:
Celebrity
Kaze
Collo
Zweil
Mochi
Alerith
H
Mystery
Bella
Gopher
Auburn
Puffs
Shauna Shapiro
FiSe
NiFe
FiSe
FiSe
FeNi
FeNi
NiFe
FiNe
NiFe
NiFe
FiSe
Dan Casey
SiTe
SiTe
SeTi
SiTe
TeSi
SiTe
NiTe
SiTe
TeSi
TeSi
TeNi
Jessica Chobot
TeNi
TeNi
TeNi
TiSe
TeNi
SeFi
SeFi
SeFi
SeFi
TeNi
TeNi
David Hartman
TeSi
TeSi
SeFi
SiFe
NiFe
NeFi
TeNi
SiTe
TeSi
SiTe
SiTe
Linda Liukas
FiNe
FiNe
NeFi
NeFi
NeFi
FiNe
FiNe
SiTe
FiNe
NeFi
NeFi
TOTAL/5
1/5
2/5
2/5
1/5
3/5
0/5
1/5
1/5
2/5
n/a
3/5
TOTAL/20
14 (70%)
17(85%)
11(55%)
13(65%)
16(80%)
14(70%)
13(65%)
10(50%)
16(80%)
x
16(80%)
This time around there's way more solid trends, with several at or above 80%.
I'll offer my thoughts and also my personal reasons for my readings, so we can discuss!
Shauna Shapiro
A lot of agreement on this one, between FiSe (4) or NiFe (4) ...or FeNi (2) I realized after posting that I may have confused things with the second video, where she seems a lot more Fi-esque. She's not like that in other vids. She's soft-spoken and kindof airy, but I would invite you to aim to look for dynamic signals of Fi. May be wrong but thus far I can't see any asymmetrical mouth expressions, snarling, snippiness, or sassiness. Her articulation is on-beat, with warm swelling. But there's a very strong general "INF" energy here for sure. This is definitely a sample belonging in this thread. She does seem to radiate emotional energy out. So the conflicting signals as i see it are:
And here's a better video which I think also displays Ti's meticulous hands, stop-start and other Ti signals along with the above:
But I think part of her soft demeanor has to do with her practice/occupation in meditation. Shauna is an Ni-lead mystic shade, very similar to Ekhart Tolle and Samraj. But also similar to NiFe Nichol Bradford who studies meditation and the transcendental experience. She very much is about removing judgment, and has a philosophy of embracing oneself and being "present" -- which is a form of Se channeling.
So the psychology also seems to match better with NiFe to me than FiSe, as FiSe would retain a private judgment center. Nor does her interest revolve around the principle of the Living (i.e. advocating, animal rights, environmentalism, etc) as much as just ....being (P-lead). But there's definitely some room for debate here. What do you guys think?
Dan Casey
This one also had a pretty solid consensus of SiTe (4) and TeSi (3). Definitely an Eccentric Nerd shade.
This one I feel has very clear and strong Te. I see a very incessantly snappy energy, and native extroversion. His movements are quick, brief, and cascading; avalanching. He takes very little intermission between one thought and the next. Very little inertia, hmm.
I think estimates of SeFi-Te and NeFi-Te would come before SiTe in my mind. I think maybe the perception of the SiTe morphed a little too far into TeSi, im guessing due to samples like Rainn Wilson. I'd like to explore this one further with you guys! But consensus is great. Means we're all seeing a pattern, just labeling it differently.
Jessica Chobot
Very nice. Virtually everyone* got this one right: TeNi. Shows how TeNi women can really beast at video games too, and well, just about anything. SeFi also isn't a bad guess, for those who went that route. * edit: last minute entries show almost a tie between TeNi and SeFi. requires some more elaboration which i'll try to offer my thoughts on
David Hartman
This one is essentially a clone of Brian Williams. Another long career Si-lead news anchor/host. He's the same shade as the first 3 in the SiTe Raw Footage video. He's got a hell of an asymmetrical mouth with tons of tension and accidental expressions. Psychologically, he also displays the Si rambling tendency, or storyteller in general. His body is very natively introverted, especially compared to Dan Casey. However, one could speculate SiFe. He doesn't have as much snippiness as we'd expect, but I think this is actually because he's verging on the SiTe-Fi shade. He's got a kind of gentle, effeminate energy.
But I'm not quite seeing "Fe" with him. He's got a bit of a swell in his delivery, but there's still a rattle in his gesticulations, and clear Fi. For this one we had no real consensus; prolly the most diverse guesses.
Linda Liukas
For this one we again had a pretty solid consensus on either NeFi (5) or FiNe (5). I can totally see the confusion too, I think she's NeFi-Fi seelie shade. I'll be posting a thread about that shade in just a few minutes here, where I go further into that topic. But in generally I think FiNe is an excellent guess too.