New member -- type assessment please?

Also, if you could do a video with sound, that would really go a long way to solidifying your typing due to the different tones and speech patterns of the different judgement functions. But thanks for doing this one. We appreciate the sample.

Hello jelle - I don't think I've given my welcome yet

I really appreciate your offer to add your vid to our research project!
So I'm going to aim for a thorough analysis. The way I do this is usually by timestamping the first 1 minute of the video starting with the questions:

1:24+ J rigid posture (very contained)
1:28+ light Pe eye-toggling to the right while remaining (J face-centric)
1:38+ Ji meticulous fingers + Ji exerted push
1:40+ Ji receding energy
1:50+ J rigid posture + subordinate Pe toggling
1:55+ Ji eyes disengage down
1:57+ Ji meticulous hands + Ji exerted push
1:58+ Ji meticulous hands + Ji exerted push
1:59+ Ji meticulous hands + Ji exerted push + Fe warm swelling
2:00+ Ji receding energy
2:00 - 2:14 (rigid body + subordinate Pe toggling)
2:15+ Pe toggling
2:18+ Je Demonstrative Hands + Fe Warm Swelling
2:20+ Ji receding energy
2:22 - 2:29 Ti meticulous hands + Fe demonstrations (the hands fold, project, and refold into a delicate Ti form)
2:35+ Fe emphasis

 ^ There are more signals than this present, specifically Ti's fatigued demeanor, passive Fe articulation and full emotional neutralization. Which you display almost as a constant in your video, making it hard to timestamp. Also, those GIFs are still not up so I apologize for the lack of demonstration for those.

Overview

Overall your vultology consists of a rigid/contained posture which is maintained while your eyes toggle faintly to the sides (not affecting/following the direction of your head) as you talk. Your energy is receding back into yourself constantly. Then occasionally your energy comes out in hand accentuations which always carry meticulous fingers, often pinching at the tips or bending at the wrists.

You are as precise with your thoughts as you are with your body/hands. This reflects an alignment of psychology + vultology. Approaching it from a psychological angle, your appreciation for conceptual reasoning, premise-based understandings, and the "why" to things - speaks clearly to a Ti-lead psychology. The appreciation for the philosophical, etc. Additionally, your depreciation for empiricism and materialism definitely matches what we see visually in you, as Ti is exactly that; conceptually pure reasoning in an immaterial way. Some of this is captured in the first section of the TiNe-Ti profile.

The quality of your eyes, however, appears Ni/Se, which means you appear TiSe and more specifically TiSe-Ti. Others of this shade are TiSe Sam Harris and TiSe Elon Musk who are also very much premise-oriented thinkers. But I suspect visually you may match better with female samples such as Scarlett Johansson and other TiSe.

Additional

Here are a few other notable timestamps spread further out in the video:

3:45 - Ji excessive blinking
3:45 - Ti Momentum Halting + Stop-Start Articulation
3:48 - Passive Fe Articulation + Meticulous Hands
3:49 - Ji receding energy

^ This segment is a classic Ti-lead signal cluster. Beginning with a pinging of the compass, the formulation of language, then the pushing of that language outward for impact, only to appear rather lackluster and passive.

5:11 - 5:20 Ti/Fe Stop-Start Articulation + Ti Meticulous Hands + Demonstrative Hands + Fe Swelling

^ This segment also shows a classic Ti/Fe signal cluster like the above, but with a bit more energy. The body oscillates between pushing outward and freezing suddenly, as it projects out one thought at a time, after having each thought pass a type of internal reviser/filter (Ti) for accuracy.
 

^ I second Erifrail's analysis, you're quite clearly Beta quadrant Ti-lead. This second video is so different from the first! o.o Your expression seemed so quick/dismissive/snippy in the Te way in your first video. The addition of sound adds a lot of data, but I think also the footage is clearer and you weren't moving around as much. As Erifrail mentions about TiSe anatomy, I've actually seen several other introverted Beta women who have a similar appearance to you. One is a NiFe friend of mine, but I've also seen quite a few TiSe and NiFe Asian women who look quite a bit like you. Are you of Asian decent?

Yes, I'm quite dissatisfied myself with the present TiSe material. Lately we've been learning a lot more about TiSe's in the discord channel and have a quite different picture to paint of them. But the in-depth profile isn't made yet. Did you find yourself relating more to some of the TiNe-Ti profile? Since it's prolly the closest type with a profile atm. Or maybe Bella's TiNe-Fe post within there?

Notes on TiSe

Both in TiSe and TiNe, the influence that Fe plays in the psyche has been underestimated. Apparently Fe operates as the sort of strong engine/drive within them. These types may feel very stoic/dry as a default and native state, but equally feel a burning longing inside. And Ti/Fe come together to form a kind of ethical/logical hybrid structure - which wants to speak and uncover the truth, but often specifically about humanity.

Here's a few videos showing TiSe and their humble, softly-stated but very devoted passion:

TiSe Jared Leto



TiSe Elon Musk




That's unexpected. Some of that is an aspect of general introversion and being Ti-lead, but usually not to such an extent. If you'd like, I feel it may be worthwhile to take a closer look at your eyes (for Se vs Ne) to confirm?, since you are quite far away in the second video and your eyes aren't very discernible in the first one due to makeup+blurriness. We've noticed the need to really double check Se vs Ne in asian eyes. If indeed you have Se, this would point to something genetic.

And hey, I apologize for the length of investigation. CT is not at a point yet where it can tell someone's type in 5 minutes with full accuracy. Sometimes 5 minutes is enough. But what we've noticed is that the more exposure is had with a person, the more accurate the assessment becomes. Generally after seeing a person in 2-3 different settings, across ~30+ minutes, and double-checking with their psychology, all the data starts to synch together.

And not in a pigeonhole kind of way, but in a meaningful way where the member's overall behavior henceforth continues to re-confirm the pattern of their psyche from a variety of independent angles.

Heh, yeah I'm pretty sure about that part too, I was just interested in the disparities we saw in assessments earlier on, and wanted to know if anyone saw any other potential lead function outside of Ti.

Alerith -- does the addition of sound change your perception of the snippiness in the last video?
Collo -- do you still see NiTe here?

Thanks in advance all!

Hey jelle, yeah the addition of sound in your second video does change my perception of your first video somewhat. You still seem to have a bit of 'sassiness' in your gesticulation, but I think this may be a certain way you express yourself (as you mentioned). I don't see any of that in your second video, but there are a lot of obvious emotional pushes which does confirm the presence of Fe in you.

With the addition of audio, I don't see any signs of Te, you're quite obviously Ti-lead. But I think it makes sense how we originally arrived at NiTe - as you describe, you're quite Ni-heavy. What I think we saw in your first video is 'T' + Ni, with an introverted disposition, and with the sassy kind of expression you displayed, all of it together looked most like NiTe.

heh, you're a bit of a chameleon! >.< but I think this shows how important it is for us to have at least a couple different samples of people from different times/situations in order to have the data for an accurate analysis.

Hi Jelle! Thanks for the videos and very interesting views on your type and type in General. I think there may be a bit of confusion here and there so we'd like to help you clear it up.

"I usually find perceived SeTi and TiSe types crass and don't share their interest in politics and "real world" issues. I can pretty much pay attention and become conversant in any topic; just not sports or personal finance. Or automobile related stuff. I hate Se heavy films or anything with too much action. As a child Se experiences frightened me. I was afraid of cats, dogs, my sister, the dark, people with pimples, being in deep water, loud children. I was picked on a lot and so sort of developed a tougher persona and look. It was actually all very learned. That's not just in appearances but you can pick it up in my desire to be dissenting in my intellectual views too."


What you describe above is ironically very common and typical of a person who has Se conscious. But it seems that your experience of having Ni also conscious has accentuated this. I think it's described pretty well on the website:

"Se Sensitivity
Yet this same receptiveness to direct stimulation can turn into undesired overwhelm. This happens most commonly in types with a polar Se, which threatens the tranquility of a primary Ni process. Se’s absorption presents such a direct channel into the psyche that a little physical discomfort can be highly amplified. Should the environment be unwelcoming, a far more jarring experience is registered.
This is further aggravated by what I term the Se-Ni
persistence effect . In times when a situation feels bleak or uncomfortable, Se will unintentionally reinforce this reality with each new loop or refresh in perception. For this type, there is often no escape from the perspective of their Ni-Se worldview, which perpetuates the sobriety of the situation."

So while Se types can and do usually enjoy the stimulation via Se, with accentuated Ni, as is in your case, it can cause the opposite, and rather a dislike and fear of it.

Now for the case of TiSe and SeTi types being "crass" and not "sharing their interest in politics and real worldy issues" I think maybe an example of a TiSe type or SeTi type who does this would be welcomed. But what you're describing seems rather to lean towards the Te lead or auxilliary definition whereas TiSe and SeTi, both having Fe, would not be quite as crass and will lean towards sharing their views on politics etc.

There's a lot more information in the book about Ji as a whole, and Ti too, here:

cognitivetype.com/2016/01/25/compass-2/

cognitivetype.com/2016/01/25/reactive-logical-judgment-ti/

And also:

cognitivetype.boards.net/thread/1349/qualities-compass

Ti as a whole is geared and/or inclined towards refinement of self towards perfection and I believe you may or may not relate with this. But please share your experience with Ti and/or Ni so we can gain a better understanding of your type which is an incredibly rare one no doubt.

And again welcome to the forum and we hope to see you around here and on the Discord server more!

*Insight on Ti and SeTi from another member and SeTi-Ti Collo*