help me type my friend..

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help me type my friend.. Sept 8, 2017 0:49:38 GMT -5 by Deleted

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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 0:49:38 GMT -5

Hey ppl

so this is my friend Yonah. I told him about CT and he would like to know his type. this is the video for now:

I told him I think he might be NiTe or SeFi.

In terms of his vultology looking again now i would actually lean towards the latter a bit - darting eyes, swaying, wobbling - but i can also see Pi intertia, hypnotic gaze (not sure you can see it in the video but i've noticed it irl) and energetically he's quite intense..

Psychologically I can also see both Ni and Se, but he's overall character seems much more Ni.. I also think he would relate to it more, but I guess it could Ni fetishism

or he's polarized or whatever.. i would have thought maybe SeFi-Ni but i didnt see anyone in the database with that subtybe so i dont know what that would mean.. i also dont know how to tell apart SeFi-Ni (if such a thing exists) and NiTe-Se so..

in any case he's probably gonna drop in later, so if there are questions about his psychology he's better suited to answer than me.

umm what else... on MBTI he gets INTJ/ENTJ (I/E score is in the middle)

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help me type my friend.. Oct 10, 2017 19:01:19 GMT -5 by Linus

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Post by Linus on Oct 10, 2017 19:01:19 GMT -5

Hey bellabellas86! I think Yonah is SeFi. I was biased for Fi-lead as soon as I saw the smile frozen on the screen for the second video you posted. However, there's something very fluid about his whole style in a way I associate with Pe. His eye movements are rather fixed: they'll move around, lock-on, move around, lock-on, and so on. (I watched a video of you on your YouTube channel afterwards for comparison, and yours have a tendency to jump around.... This also shows in the differences between how your bodies move.) I went from FiNe-Ne to FiSe-Se and, since neither seemed right, I think SeFi is right. Based on the videos, SeFi-Se seems likely, but maybe there's more given how you're describing him.

"hypnotic gaze (not sure you can see it in the video but i've noticed it irl)" - I didn't noticed it, no, but I don't imagine it's impossible for that to happen with non-Ni-leads.

"and energetically he's quite intense.." - This could be Se+Te. My SeFi friend can get quite intense too.

He actually reminds me of that SeTi MBTI YouTube personality of yester-years, EJArendee. I would guess the differences are caused in part by differences in judging functions.

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help me type my friend.. Oct 12, 2017 2:52:07 GMT -5 by Alerith

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Post by Alerith on Oct 12, 2017 2:52:07 GMT -5

I saw there was some discussion about him on discord a while back that seemed to conclude NiTe-Se. I think that's prolly a good estimate, he does have some fluidity to him, and the kind of 'floppy' gesticulation of P>J, but his energy strikes me as being introverted/collected. He expresses a lot of Fi radiation, but it seems to be confined to the lower half of his face, unlike if Fi were higher than Te. I'd say NiTe with a good integration of both Se and Fi. Seems like all his functions may well be conscious.

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help me type my friend.. Oct 12, 2017 16:32:02 GMT -5 by Deleted Alerith likes this

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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 16:32:02 GMT -5

yeah Alerith I tend to agree. I think he shows adequate usage of all 4 functions which makes him a bit borderline between the p-lead gammas, but after observing him some more I am leaning towards NiTe, but keeping SeFi as an option just to keep an open mind. He can pass as extrovert sometimes when he's on Te mode but he always goes back to an introverted mode which seems more innate, and even on Te mode he has a sort of underlying chill/unimpressed vibe. I can also see a bit of an Se fetish in him.

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help me type my friend.. Oct 12, 2017 17:21:37 GMT -5 by viremic

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Post by viremic on Oct 12, 2017 17:21:37 GMT -5

Oct 12, 2017 16:32:02 GMT -5 bellabellas86 said:

yeah Alerith I tend to agree. I think he shows adequate usage of all 4 functions which makes him a bit borderline between the p-lead gammas, but after observing him some more I am leaning towards NiTe, but keeping SeFi as an option just to keep an open mind. He can pass as extrovert sometimes when he's on Te mode but he always goes back to an introverted mode which seems more innate, and even on Te mode he has a sort of underlying chill/unimpressed vibe. I can also see a bit of an Se fetish in him.

Curious - what makes you so sure of the Te? I'm defs thinking Fe/Ti -> Ti tertiary can give the "underlying chill/unimpressed vibe".

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help me type my friend.. Oct 12, 2017 18:16:53 GMT -5 by Alerith

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Post by Alerith on Oct 12, 2017 18:16:53 GMT -5

viremic - Actually, it's not his chill vibe that makes me think Te/Fi, although his specific aura does match many other NiTe we've seen. But that's more of a qualia signal, I'm basing my estimate off of the quantitative signals I'm seeing. All of his signals point to Te/Fi; continuous, monotone speech, direct 'karate chop' gesticulation, asymmetrical mouth movements, dismissive shoulder shrugs, upward tension around mouth, bashful emotional radiation, spontaneous laughs/smiles with horizontal splitting in his cheeks, etc. I don't see any of the swelling and cooling of Fe/Ti, nor any of the other signals associated with this pairing.

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help me type my friend.. Oct 13, 2017 1:33:32 GMT -5 by blank

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Post by blank on Oct 13, 2017 1:33:32 GMT -5

Oh my, I did not read the other comments before composing these notes. Scribbles more notes furiously. Apparently this is a very unpopular opinion: PeTi.

When he appears to have a spontaneous/accidental laugh/smile, it always seems to be as he's saying something he'd like to soften "it's probably an ego issue of mine," "I don't know how to answer this question [about something most people don't know about me]," "because I lost my first [fist fight] very badly," "after the Kennedy assassination to discredit people," "and it's such arrogance," "I definitely believe in a lot of conspiracy theories," "because who's going to judge you as long as you do your job, y'know?" "and then they die a year later," "kill switch to reality. bam."
and he doesn't seem to have any residual emotional tension once he's done laughing/smiling

- Ti looking directly down as he's thinking of words to say
- 0:40 of first video - Ti puppeteer hands?
- looks straight down during pauses just before having more to say
- looks straight down while defining 'success'

overall:
flat cheeks
P-lead buoyancy

Also his eyes toggle a ton. I really wanna say reviser, not conductor. That's why I said PeTi and not P-lead Ti/Fe.

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