All right: I'm kind of new to CT theory and I have a couple of questions. One major question lies in determining my cognitive type through facial analysis. Let's say we nail the pairings down (ex. Ne/Si Te/Fi). What empirically determines that I'm NeFi and not SiTe or TeSi or FiNe. Finding the pairings seems easy, but determining the dominant can be subjectively determined upon the temporal circumstance (perhaps I'm SiTe but I was having NeFi kind of day.) What process is used to determine between the four pairings?
Ways to visually identify order of function pairings:
P-leads (any S or N function) Move around a lot. Their movements of the body are lead by their eyes; their eyes seem to be more independent from the rest of the face.
Pi-leads (Si/Ni): Have slow, viscous movements. Eyes drift to the sides a lot. Slow lean-backs occur.
Pe-leads (Se/Ne): Have a faster pace of moving around. Eyes always scanning the environment for new information.
J-leads (any T or F function): Rigid posture, use hands gestures often.
Ji-leads (Ti/Fi): Look down frequently.
Je-leads (Te/Fe): Head movements as if they are "pushing" their point to you. Strong articulation.
Introverted vs Extroverted: Energy recedes inward, and generally appears lower vs seeming to have more energy ready to use/being used.
Ways to visually identify order of function pairings:
P-leads (any S or N function) Move around a lot. Their movements of the body are lead by their eyes; their eyes seem to be more independent from the rest of the face.
Pi-leads (Si/Ni): Have slow, viscous movements. Eyes drift to the sides a lot. Slow lean-backs occur.
Pe-leads (Se/Ne): Have a faster pace of moving around. Eyes always scanning the environment for new information.
J-leads (any T or F function): Rigid posture, use hands gestures often.
Ji-leads (Ti/Fi): Look down frequently.
Je-leads (Te/Fe): Head movements as if they are "pushing" their point to you. Strong articulation.
Introverted vs Extroverted: Energy recedes inward, and generally appears lower vs seeming to have more energy ready to use/being used.
Does mood play a role in the observation, though? For example, can a person who is Ne be described as Si if they happen to be tired and less active that day? Or could a J display both a downward and a "pushing" style concurrently?
When determining type, securing the dominant seems to be the greatest challenge. I was wondering if there were any clear distinctions apart from frequency.
Well, words can only describe what I'm trying to say to a certain extent. To address your first question, I think that if an Ne-lead was very tired they would look like a Ji-lead. The reason that I think this is because Pe-leads have a more energized momentum that they move with, and if the energy is gone they will keep a rigid posture. They will look like a Ji-lead over a Je-lead because their articulation is weaker and their speech will be much less extroverted, especially if they are tired. Depending on how tired the person is, they might still do a lot of exploration with their eyes and be lead with their eyes. If they are like realllllllllyyyyyyy tired, then I don't know if they'd even give off enough consistent signals to type off. A Si-lead would have a more fluid motion in their body movements and their articulation would be stronger than that of an Ne-lead. Second question regarding J-leads: No. Ji-leads are introverted and Je-leads are extroverted. You will really be able to see the difference in energy of the two types. Additionally, the Ji-lead will have weaker articulation and do more exploration (Pe) than the Je-lead. When a Je-lead is talking, they are doing it in a very extroverted manner, like they are talking directly to you very clearly. A Ji-lead would look more like they're thinking while talking. Sorry for any confusion on the signals, you should probably look at the video series if you want to see what I'm talking about in motion.
The signals themselves can be pretty distinct if you're good at VR. There is no absolute distinction really because VR itself isn't completely distinct.
Even if someone is tired, they will still be using the same thought processes as they always do. A tired Ne-lead won't look like an Si-lead because Pe and Pi display different signals. A low-energy Ne-lead will look like just that - still leading their face with their eyes, and toggling their eyes, looking up when searching for something/connecting ideas, moving with fluid motion, having energy that "perks up" relative to their at-rest state, etc. They'll just do all that with a bit less momentum if they're tired. An Si-lead will move with inertia, starting with less energy and slowly gliding to a halt. Their eyes will still toggle, but in a different manner than if Ne was above Si: they don't dart around as much or as rapidly, and tend to look to the sides then back. Their movement is more periodic, while Ne/Si is more random.
As you get more adept at visual reading, the lead functions become clearer, it's as if the rest of the functions "sit" within the signals of the dominant function.
Post by Princess Sparkle on Jun 5, 2013 1:16:46 GMT -5
I still think it's important not to discount the fact that different questions and activities will provoke different responses and skill sets. I believe that some questions and activities can prime the way someone reacts and responds, potentially masking function stackings (though probably not the functions themselves.)
Dario Nardi identifies people's types depending on what triggers their "state of flow." I think CR might have to aim towards the same thing.