Quadra descriptions: Behavioral or cognitive?
Jan 27, 2018 8:29:17 GMT -5 by mikesilb
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Post by mikesilb on Jan 27, 2018 8:29:17 GMT -5
Over the past couple days, I've been staring at some classic Socionics material and comparing it to CT, especially with respect to function axes and quadra values. What I'm seriously wondering is whether the quadra descriptions naturally have some behavioral tint to them, rather than is completely cognitively-based. (And teatime , I have to give you a ton of credit, because if I'm not mistaken, it was you who was talking with me privately about the idea of having a faux-quadra [and not just a faux-cognitive function]. I'm finding a lot of accuracy in this concept).
Here's the thing: I'm beginning to wonder if while I cognitively belong to the gamma quadra, behaviorally, I happen to fit the delta quadra considerably better. This also supports the fact that I am an Fi-subtype of a gamma type, and since both gamma and delta share Fi/Te, it would not at all be surprising that I would have overlap with the delta behavioral qualities. (In contrast, I would expect Ni or Se subtypes of gamma to lean more toward the beta side of things. In many ways, I see the behavioral aspects of beta and gamma quadras to overlap in these two specific subtypes).
I find myself to be more empathetic, playful, relaxed, and somewhat less 'corporate' (bad word choice.....fill in with a better word) oriented, and I could see how my behavioral NFP (in both INFP and ENFP) leanings take me in this direction despite my cognition (and especially Ni/Se rather than Ne/Si) remaining with gamma.
I'm wondering if the quadra terminologies were meant (by Socionicists and also here in CT) to place behavioral attributes on what is generally a cognitive model. As a result, I would expect 'quadra allegiance' to be only loosely adhered to by the individual in a great many cases. That being said, I do think that in many cases there are BOTH cognitive and behavioral matches to a given quadra, but this is definitely not a certainty....especially when a behavioral aspect is being superimposed on a cognitively-determined model. I think that we have to look more at the developmental aspects of the individual (which shows the variability within any CT type) to get further in tune with how well the match (or non-match) of quadra occurs in that individual.
Anyway, I'll stop here, but I'm curious if anyone has greater feedback about this topic.
As a self-inquiry, how well does your CT-determined quadra fit you, and do you find that a secondary/faux quadra might fit you better?
Here's the thing: I'm beginning to wonder if while I cognitively belong to the gamma quadra, behaviorally, I happen to fit the delta quadra considerably better. This also supports the fact that I am an Fi-subtype of a gamma type, and since both gamma and delta share Fi/Te, it would not at all be surprising that I would have overlap with the delta behavioral qualities. (In contrast, I would expect Ni or Se subtypes of gamma to lean more toward the beta side of things. In many ways, I see the behavioral aspects of beta and gamma quadras to overlap in these two specific subtypes).
I find myself to be more empathetic, playful, relaxed, and somewhat less 'corporate' (bad word choice.....fill in with a better word) oriented, and I could see how my behavioral NFP (in both INFP and ENFP) leanings take me in this direction despite my cognition (and especially Ni/Se rather than Ne/Si) remaining with gamma.
I'm wondering if the quadra terminologies were meant (by Socionicists and also here in CT) to place behavioral attributes on what is generally a cognitive model. As a result, I would expect 'quadra allegiance' to be only loosely adhered to by the individual in a great many cases. That being said, I do think that in many cases there are BOTH cognitive and behavioral matches to a given quadra, but this is definitely not a certainty....especially when a behavioral aspect is being superimposed on a cognitively-determined model. I think that we have to look more at the developmental aspects of the individual (which shows the variability within any CT type) to get further in tune with how well the match (or non-match) of quadra occurs in that individual.
Anyway, I'll stop here, but I'm curious if anyone has greater feedback about this topic.
As a self-inquiry, how well does your CT-determined quadra fit you, and do you find that a secondary/faux quadra might fit you better?
