TiSe: The Definitive Vultology

TiSe ll-- Adaptive Female



Here we see the ll-- development, where the TiSe gains the momentum provided by Se. My primary task is to differentiate these from SeTi so I'll be focusing on how Se looks beneath a Ji structure. First, here are a few GIFs of them in their Ti default state:

Ti Default Core


And here are a few GIFs of Pe momentum in action.



Just like the TiNe ll-- samples, we see the same neutralization and return to inaction (Ti core) as with the l--- samples... but with the capacity to veer away from that into fluidity in small bursts. The important distinction is that the body is always deflating by default, and these casual hands and body sways are stacked atop of a rhythm that is seeking to 'land' and 'stop' in some more rigid place. The opposite is true of SeTi vultology which is in a constant drift, and has to take an intermission in order to "halt". We can see this in GIFs of SeTi ll-- such as:



Psychology

There are a lot of actresses here. But like with other types, I tend not to give the occupation of actor/actress much weight due to us having so many actors from our hollywood-heavy sample pool. But for our one non-actor here, Skylar Grey, we see a few similar themes to Taylor Swift. A focus on self-sufficiency, to the degree of isolating herself in the woods and being one's own writer, singer, producer, etc. Resisting dependency on others. Ji-leads appear to like taking control over the entire pipeline of an art production, or as much of it as possible. This isn't a given, as other artists and musicians are typically more open to work in groups and bands. Ji-lead musicians, including FiSe's and FiNe's, appear to like going "solo" more, even though some Pe-leads do so too. I hope to have more to say on this vultology as more non-hollywood samples arrive.

TiSe ll-- Adaptive Male



Here we see ll-- Kilian, who displays the same combination of delicate Ji poise, with an added layer of Pe energy that emerges only in little bursts before it deflates back to a receding energy. Here are a couple GIFs showing the two states:



Unlike the l--- samples above, Kilian does break into Pe signals on occasion, rather than remaining always still. But the default state he returns to is still very apparent. No Je development, as was expected! It would be interesting to flesh out the description of the TiSe ll-- by learning more about you.

TiSe l--l Directive Male



Here we have TiSe with conscious Fe development. This adds a directivity to the personality which is evident in Leto and Brownlee alike. But first, the vultology. As noted in the TiNe thread, the difference between conscious Je and unconscious Je in the Ji-lead hierarchy has to do with the quality of the hand gestures, not in the presence or absence of hand gestures themselves. Je consciousness is marked by resoluteness, force and the presence they carry and are delivered with. Below we have a few GIFs showing the difference in energy between this development and the ll-- one:

Conscious Je Gestures


Compare to Pe signals in the ll-- development:

Non-conscious Je Gestures


As you can see, the ll-- types have P Casual Hands which swing more side-to-side in rhythm with the higher fluidity of their posture. The Je-conscious individuals have a more forward/back tempo, a greater angularity in their delivery, and and overall larger unification between all aspects of the body. The head nod, torso, arms, hands, mouth, eyebrows.. all work in greater unison to give a cohesive delivery.

Psychology

We touched briefly on Jared Leto in the l--- section, but here we see him again modulating Fe. As we would expect of conscious Je, he's got agency in the world, manifested here by his show of entrepreneurship, interest in investments, and proactive management. The full interview has him talking about how he's excelled at identifying startups before they went big (like AirBnb) and helping them out. Not too dissimilar is the case of Marques Brownlee, who also has interests in the tech world, a great deal of agency (he runs his own studio, and has produced 1,000+ videos for youtube showcasing his Ti diagonostician tendencies) and follow through.

We see Marques Brownlee as an example of a TiSe Ace, rising to prominence as possibly the most famous tech reviewer; being acutely focused on precision, aesthetics, ergonomics, and a kind of 49/51 analysis of smartphones and cameras. We see a lot of his focus on the photographic aspect of Se via his critique of camera images, and the persistence effect in how the tiniest inconveniences can sour the experience of a smartphone. He reviews tech not just for its specs, but for how they interweave into the human experience.. which is not an aspect other reviewers share to the same degree. To do this he calls on his own Ti and always admits that his reviews are highly subjective, from the point of view of one user.

TiSe ll-l Adaptive Female / The Poised Actor



Now here we see the TiSe displaying the maximal amount of extroverted energy, with both Se+Fe conscious. Due to this presence of double-extroversion, the net effect of this development will be on par with, or perhaps exceeding, the baseline energy of a native l--- extrovert. Here are a few GIFs showcasing the development:

Je Conscious


As we saw with the l--l types, we see a firmness and angularity to their hand gestures; a force behind them. But what we also see atop of that force is a level of playful bubbling Pe energy to complement it:

Je+Pe Conscious


Here we see both Zoe and Taylor amping up at the beginning of the GIF, then returning to a more naturally receding energy by the end of the GIF. We can tell that this level of energy is non-native due to the compensation in the body. Not just in Zoe and Taylor, but in all the samples above, we see exertion and exhaustion. The energy does not come from the body itself, but from a sort of will to manifest it. The TiSe understands the need to convey with their body a message, and uses it as an asset for their expressiveness.

Psychology

These types (Poised Actors) will often be ESF in temperament (due to the Se+Fe conjunction), able to navigate social situations with grace, tact and enthusiasm. Emma Anzai from Sick Puppies is known for her dramatic on-stage performances, as is Taylor Swift and occasionally also Zella Day. But much like the TiNe Socially Present, this development is a heavy modulation. There is often a need or conviction that propels their expressiveness. It's more deliberate, coordinated and calibrated than the ESF qualia we get from SeFi or even SeTi l-l- types.

TiSe ll-l Directive Female



And here we have our dear member Jelle, who I need to get a better video of! But I've placed this one here for the time being. Most of the aforementioned applies to her as well. Jelle let me know what you think, after going through this thread, but I feel quite certain of your type and development now, and you have helped shape and expand it into a more appropriate form. Previously the TiSe was not understood to have such fire or capacity for social presence, both of which you've mentioned having and which seemed to suggest native extroversion for you. But from what I can tell, this exists in most TiSe's as well, in a particular form that is Pe+Je like what I see in you.

And there is also the factor, which was overlooked before, that auxiliary Se gives the TiSe a baseline level of contact with the objective, as opposed to the TiNe.. which has been the baseline Ti-lead definition for CT out of a limited scope of understanding, but which now has to be relativized against what we see of real TiSe samples. Let me know your thoughts and if this makes sense to you!

TiSe ll-l Adaptive Male



TiSe ll-l Directive Male



For the male examples, we have a fully realized Marques Brownlee and Christian Hudson (Pickup Artist). Christian fits the bill of Poised Actor best, being one who crafts his persona very meticulously to achieve certain outcomes. The level of sensational finesse that Marques devotes to his analysis of smartphones is the same level of acuity that Christian devotes to his persona. Both are animated, capable, expressive, and exist in the spotlight. As more samples come in, I hope this definition can also expand.

TiSe llll Directive Male



This shows a llll development, with all four functions visible at conscious levels and with comparable ratios of expression. This is very unusual and counter-intuitive. So much is happening in the video that it is hard to make heads or tails out of out. But I find that there are two creative ways to frame the llll vultology which help wrap my head around it. We can say one one hand that Faeruss is like lll- Elon Musk but with conscious Je, or we can say he is like Sam Harris if he had Pe. In either case, the result is more or less the same.

It may be easier to showcase it by breaking down the signals by function:

Ti Default Core


Se+Fe Conscious


Ni Conscious


Ni+Fe Conscious



TiSe llll Adaptive Male