Post by peppergirl on Jun 23, 2013 14:20:07 GMT -5
Well, those links confirmed what I think ^^
It seems like Ji-leads look more humble and self-doubting than Pi-lead who have more of "I know" vibe. It's just an outside impression, it doesn't mean that Pi-lead never doubt or vice-versa.
now zimmer is passed from green to red , he and Trent Reznor for the moment are the two more difficult. Funny thing? They are two of my favorite artist. Well, i think i agree with Lisa Gerard FiSe now, she's green. I want you to watch some recent videos just to make a comparation in how she's changed with years, now his voice is more decisive and sharp, maybe in the years she developed quite well her Te, now is more similar with Morrisey, but still mantaining a bit of the airy quality of his voice:
About Claire Boucher, i counted much more carefully the readings, i think we are still stalled the majority is not enough, ayoungspirit what do you think about her?
For the other artists... wait a second, i must take a break from the jog . I invite you again to watch the others we haven't talked about in this thread, we have a bunch of FiSes and NeFis and it will be cool to make an immediate comparation between the two
Post by ayoungspirit on Jun 23, 2013 15:50:28 GMT -5
Heron : I see her as SeFi. Momentum and snarl. She can have some graceful movements but she dances after all, and for emotional investment she relies more on karate chops.
Last Edit: Jun 23, 2013 15:55:23 GMT -5 by ayoungspirit
Another Fe/Ti user, there's a sort of tension in the cheeks, but his way to explain thing are more Fe than Te. He is very similar to Zimmer for some things, but for me he is a J lead, even if in the video said "is almost an improvvisational...(yeah, i do think this)...process for me", i'm thinking FeNi, alternatively TiSe.
Philip Glass:
So strange, he is so paternal. For me is TeNi with heavy Fi or a FiSe with heavy Te, higly undecided, he shares qualities of the two types simultaneously.
Yann Tiersen:
Gosh, he seems mad with this eyes anyway, he seems a quite obvious Se/Ni user to me, and seems J lead. He is quite unemotional in his appearance, i found difficult to spot the J's, but in another interview at 3:40 he seems to radiate emotions in a Fi manner. Maybe another TeNi? I can be absolutely wrong, like i said, he is relatively unemotional, so, at least for me, is difficult to know, alternatively, he could be a very reserved SeFi.
Is this the Se/Ni day? Anyway, for me He is a TiSe.
John Debney:
Oh god, he makes me think a lot of Ejarendee, same hand gestures, same intercalaryes "it comes out". For me SeTi.
P.S.
Maybe all the readings of this post are incorrect, i'm tired now maybe tomorrow i'll watch again all these videos to see inconsistencies in my readings.
Post by ayoungspirit on Jun 25, 2013 9:16:58 GMT -5
Sorry, I will do the others now and editing this post as I go :
Danny Elfman : Damn, I hate cross arms . The cutting effect of his word look like Ti freezing but with his body go in full push even with this contrived position when he talked so I think this is more of a Fe surgical strike : FeNi. => TiSe.
Philip Glass : not an easy one indeed. He could be TeSi but his airy voice, sort of shyness and fairy smile instead of wolf one give me more of FiSe impression. => FiNe.
Yann Tiersen : I would say that he has the crazy eyes of very strong Se lead (look at that for example : Beaver guy), seems to have a slight contraction near his nose and have in fact a very emotionally printed speech, in a "I am so baffled by the beauty of life that my face will be flat now". He does not seem to have a lot of momentum going but he has always a part of his body moving (even if it is only the hand).
John Carpenter : I would say SeTi, he is quite energetic and if you compare the picture with advanced signals, he looks more of a Ti support than lead (guy on the very left especially and picture of him on the right), he has a slight bit more tension in zygomatic muscles. => TiSe
John Debney : SeTi with a well developed Fe that cannot quite contain his natural energy.
mh... we have some little divergent opinions this time, we haven't reached the majority with anyone of those peppergirl do you have some final opinions? Or you prefer to leave it for a moment and return later? anyway, for the moment, we have some "white" people, i think is better to concentrate our attention to those before searching another artists, what do you think?
Post by peppergirl on Jun 25, 2013 10:35:42 GMT -5
Well I'm final on John Debney and Yann Tiersen. I have not watched the others enough. So I think you're right, we should concentrate on the ones already there and refine our conclusions.
Last Edit: Jun 25, 2013 10:36:29 GMT -5 by peppergirl
ok, for the moment we put the reds in an angle (i remember who they are: Hans Zimmer (i sent a pm to Erifrail asking an opinion about him), John Carpenter, Philip Glass and Danny Elfman), now, the first 5 whites (some of those are already typed by peppergirl ):
Thom Yorke
In another post i typed him initially FiNe, now i think FiSe, you? (in the Erifrail's list is written that he could possibly be also an NiTe)
Wally de Backer (Gotye):
The overall opinion is for NeFi, i've also the same opinion.
Angelo Branduardi: I searched a lot a video where he's young, this is the only i found but has a bad quality:
Post by ayoungspirit on Jun 25, 2013 13:46:28 GMT -5
Hans Zimmer still a SeTi for me (sharp movement between zoning and fixing) but Lisa Gerrard is now puzzling me again and seeing her soft eyes gently brushing in this video ( link ), I am tempted to say again FiNe. Sometimes she has a glazed look that seems to look at people without really fixing them and she never really peels her eyelids even with elongated (but not that intense) searching up, or doing intense fixing. She does not have a sprite persona as childlike as Regina Spektor but seems to be lot close to the Joan Baez extract (if it is her ?), sorrowful one. Sorry for the inconvenience, still learning !
Thom Yorke : I think he is doing mostly Ni zoning and some time come back strongly on his interlocutor, with a somewhat viscous if a bit neutral position (relaxed shoulders, bit of swaying), and somewhat snarl blocked by cheeks and rough speaking, so I am bending toward NiTe (but maybe I am traumatized by my own thread and have developed a fetish on Ji Vs Ni types )
Gotye : Oh, I understand now that Ne lead can have very bright eyes, but which do not stop to move and do not clearly altern zone out/lock on, NeFi it is.
Angelo Branduardi : Ni lead, does a lot of zoning out, seems to have a viscous posture, and for the support, I would say NiTe even if his young face appears quite flat. He has somewhat of a snarl that seems to be blocked under the cheeks like a sub-polar one, and does karate chops.
ok.. google deleted all the comments on the name in the list, but don't worry, i've updated it all, now there are also the names of the readers (if you watch at my signature i put the document) And i noticed that is possible to chat while watching the document, so in the future if requested we can also do that
Post by ayoungspirit on Jun 25, 2013 17:26:22 GMT -5
I am not sure but I think that it shows your real name in the viewer, chat section (google account ?). Thought it would be good for you, and others (especially the one who have google accounts) to know.