My prominent cognitive function loop seems to be TeFi. It often feels overwhelming as I live predominantly in my head analyzing and criticizing, and I've started to think of ways to reach my NiSe more often and more consciously. While thinking of this, I started to wonder whether it is more common for J-leads to be stuck in judging functions while socially engaged or in an otherwise stimulating environment. If I compare myself to my husband (most probably NiTe), he seems to be able to keep his Ni-mode on no matter what the circumstances. In other words, he's way more relaxed and perceptive than I could ever be. For me, it's almost impossible to not use my Te (and continuously compare it with Fi), which results in high level of stress and anxiety. It's only when I'm completely alone that I feel I can relax into my NiSe functions. Consequently, if I for some reason don't have enough solitude, I become very cranky and extremely critical.
So, my question is, as in the header, how other J-lead and especially Je-lead people get in touch with their perception functions, and what they think of the relationship between their judging and perceiving function loops.
Last Edit: Jul 17, 2013 10:26:00 GMT -5 by MsLajlaa
Interesting... I'm not 100% sure I'm NeFi yet but I relate a lot to being Perception-lead, on the other hand I'm quite sensitive (especially in groups or some people that trigger strong antagonism and feelings) and quiet which made me think I was FiNe. On the other hand, except for some vety specific issues (and still I could see myself change my views), I tend to be more free flowing and relativist, adapting myself (if possible emotionally) to different contexts and people, changing perspectives about them on real-time. I don't know if it's due to my primary oscillation pair (I use a lot my Si too but prefer Ne) but I'm sure I'm not enough filtering infos to really didcriminate them in a "rational" way, I much prefer gathering many of them and keep them under my arm. Of course I have opinions and personal feelings but it's as though they were temporary, the priority is "but I never know, I could be wrong about it so don't focus too much on this". Being highly sensitive while still being open-minded (ok I can be stubborn too), more precisely thirsty for new perspectives and opportunities can be a challenge. That's why I admire J-lead, they're the ones we trust to guide or structure us. A kind of reference/anchor.
Last Edit: Jul 5, 2013 14:17:00 GMT -5 by peppergirl
It's valuable to understand how other people/types work, as it can be so very different from one's own default mode. I feel I'm too busy making judgments and can't give enough time to simply view and observe what happens. I would love to be more laid-back and patient.
According to Cognitive Types, functions themselves have no effect on who you are. They do not add or remove anything from your personality. According to them, this is how your brain works. It not something that you can control or influence at. Therefore, there is no way or point you can distinguish your functions piece by piece and analyse them independently for some precarious reason. Yes I sound like a condescending prick. And yes it sounds very messed up. I am not happy about it either. It just is. Works for something for some reason.
Btw, my gf is also a TeNi (at least her MBTI test says so). I think talking about this is more interesting. Yes I sound like a troll now who try to derail this topic. But still..its interesting. Damn...I should stop now before someone hits my head with some large spiked club to force some perception functions start working. Hey wait...maybe this is how it works?
@mv: I'm not sure I understood your point, so sorry if my reply doesn't relate. I know CT doesn't want to make estimations on personality features/behavioral tendencies and cognitive functions before having collected enough data at all levels. So my mistake was to speak in the name of TeNi functions while depicting my personal experiences, because we don't yet have knowledge on how certain functions relate to behavior of actual people who were visually read to have those functions. I was speculating that certain thought processes and tendencies of mine were representing my assumed cognitive functions, and I didn't really feel bad about doing that, because for me this kind of playing with theory can work as a tool to understand myself better. However, I do feel sorry, if my behavior affects CT project in a negative way, and I will try to keep my hypothetical extensions of theory private from now on, if needed, and only speak of my experiences without reference to assumed functions. So otherwise formed, I could ask how people typed with Je-lead in general achieve a more relaxed, perceptive state of mind (no reference to functions here).
To be honest, I find it very difficult to speak without referring to functions, because I feel they make so much sense to me now, whether that's purely pragmatic or something "real". Need to improve on keeping my mouth shut.
It might be relevant to ask what is meant by personality in the first place, though. I believe our brain with all its activities fundamentally is what we (personality?) are, so I don't quite understand how our cognitive processing would be out of that relation. If I have a high frequency of use of specific functions that also show in my brain scan as activation of certain areas, how would it not effect my behavior and life in general? We are in a constant interaction with external world by our bodies, which again form the same biological organism as our brain, so it sounds weird to think that our internal brain processing wouldn't relate to our outward behavior. I'm quite optimistic that in future we will be able to describe and draw estimations on behavioral tendencies of people using certain functions, but until that day arrives, it's all hypothetical.