Post by TheLogicFan on Jan 7, 2014 18:16:36 GMT -5
I'm starting to think you guys are right about her using Si/Ne. Going over all the videos again Si/Ne seems like a better fit. But now I'm starting to doubt her having Ti/Fe. She has a number of Fi/Te signals that would make a lot more sense if she was a Fi/Te user. Iβm still leaning towards Je-lead, so maybe she is a TeSi? I'm not sure, but it would explain a number of things.
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Pe perk ups: 0:09, 0:13, 1:29, 1:44, 3:44 Pe quick bubbling up of energy: 0:38, 1:23
-Te lack of swell in voice -Te matter of factness -Te stiff joints in hands 0:17 -Fi slowly neutralizing smile 3:01
In my opinion she fits with PeFi pretty well. The only reason I actually thought J-lead might be possible is because of the voice theory thing I was talking about. Do you want to explain why J-lead fits with her ?
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Post by TheLogicFan on Jan 7, 2014 19:25:04 GMT -5
Yes, the reason I'm leaning towards Je-lead is because she has a number of the signals that indicate Je-lead. At least I think she does.
She has a lot of gesticulation with arms and hands, strong body posture, deliberate strong signals, high cheekbones and a strong jaw region (lover half of face). All of these indicate Je-lead. On top of that she has a ton of blunt eyebrow raises which is more common in TeJi and JiTe types. I'm not completely sold on TeSi yet, but it does seem to fit with the signals.
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Kristen BellJan 7, 2014 19:37:45 GMT -5 by Deleted
This shouldn't affect our results at all, but I just found it amusing that someone got Kristen Bell to take a MBTI personality test in 2012 and she tweeted that she got "ENFP".
"I will never assert that an individual must be the type I think they are. I am human, I still have subjectivity. I also think it's possible that an individual can be aware if they have been mistyped. Therefore, when it comes down to it, the ultimate decision to accept/reject a typing should come from that person themself. For better or worse, it is ultimately up to them...or some kind of perfect brain scan. haha"
-IluvHSJ
From this thread, I think I can see either FeSi fitting or TeSi. (And vicariously, my little cousin might be these types too)
She seems so rigid in posture and deliberate with her words and body language that I would consider her a strong J-lead of some sort.
Te sounds right to me because of her voice in that Frozen video sounds monotone to my ears.
But Fe sounds right because of her really wide smiles. I will need to take a closer look later to distinguish Fi/Te from Fe/Ti in her.
"I will never assert that an individual must be the type I think they are. I am human, I still have subjectivity. I also think it's possible that an individual can be aware if they have been mistyped. Therefore, when it comes down to it, the ultimate decision to accept/reject a typing should come from that person themself. For better or worse, it is ultimately up to them...or some kind of perfect brain scan. haha"
-IluvHSJ
Don't watch morsecode, her voice here will irritate you more. lol
"I will never assert that an individual must be the type I think they are. I am human, I still have subjectivity. I also think it's possible that an individual can be aware if they have been mistyped. Therefore, when it comes down to it, the ultimate decision to accept/reject a typing should come from that person themself. For better or worse, it is ultimately up to them...or some kind of perfect brain scan. haha"
-IluvHSJ
Gah, sorry to bump this thread again. But Kristen was on Conan last night. It was so strange watching a fresh video of her after analyzing her face for the past couple of months. I am torn between FeSi and TeSi. I think I am actually leaning more towards TeSi though. I think I noticed some short Te-like shrugs and nods this time and there was one part where her smile seemed to become a snarl. She also seems more direct/blunt with her words as well. Anyways, if this is so, I think I have two cousins who are also TeSi. I think this will be my very last post on Kristen. haha.
Last Edit: Jan 22, 2014 21:04:58 GMT -5 by IluvHSJ
"I will never assert that an individual must be the type I think they are. I am human, I still have subjectivity. I also think it's possible that an individual can be aware if they have been mistyped. Therefore, when it comes down to it, the ultimate decision to accept/reject a typing should come from that person themself. For better or worse, it is ultimately up to them...or some kind of perfect brain scan. haha"
-IluvHSJ
IluvHSJ you really crack me up with this Kristen Bell obsession. She is Fe user FOR SURE! Promise. Nothing Fi about that smile, even in the conan video from last night.
I've got to go with either FeNi or NiFe. In the Elllen video she shows lots of Fe with her warm interpersonal smile, the way her energy is being warmly projected onto Ellen, as well as the stiff wrists with open fingers in gesticulation. In addition to the warm Fe head nods she also bobs her head gently in articulation which is indicative of JeFe. The thing that makes me doubt JeFe is that when Ellen is asking her a question she seems to let her actress guard slip and the half lidded, bored Ni face takes over, making me think when she's not in actress mode she might be NiFe. My best guess is still FeNi.
I can't let Kristen go. haha. I said my last post would be the last, but turns out it isn't. lol.
I don't think I am leaning towards Fe anymore. So sorry for bouncing around so much and going against many people's best guesses. But I made some gifs to show what signals, I found.
(blunt Te eye brow raises. She has done these short eye brow raises in other interviews too, but I haven't gifed them yet)
I'm interested to hear what kinds of hands does Kristen have, since I don't have much experience with hands... Fi/Te? or Fe/Ti?
(I think the interviewer had Te-like hands, especially when you watch the interview)
These pics are HUGE. so sorry! But here are random pics of her hands.
And here is some Fi snarls and tension in her cheeks (though her cheeks are big, I actually believe they aren't causing the "appearance" of Fi, but it is "real" Fi that can be seen. However, that is why I want to decipher her hand movements and eyebrow raises more than her smile, cuz it can be confusing)
And here are Si-scowls...I think...
I really actually am thinking TeSi can be a big possibility with her (due to past videos of rigid body posture and being face-centric).
And something she said in an interview got to me, but it is just a notion. She said for the character of Anna in Frozen, she wanted to create a princess who she could relate to as a kid. She said she felt like an awkward kid growing up. She said she "talked too fast, too much, and put my foot in my mouth a lot". She said this multiple times in different interviews. It sounds like it was a really big deal for her. And so this is just a crazy idea, but I wonder if Te-leads could relate to that statement, especially about talking too fast and perhaps saying things unintentionally/bluntly with Te, causing people's feeling to be stirred without meaning to...Well, maybe FeSi could relate to that too, but I could totally see it as a Te-lead issue.
Anyways, I think I now fancy the idea of Kristen being a Te-lead because she would be atypical, one of the unique ones...like a Te-lead with heavy Fi, who identifies with their feelings and isn't so harsh sounding with words (though the Te bluntness comes out every now and then IMO). So not only Feeling-leads or those with feeling function as support can be the only ones who identify with the softer, emotional side of life. I think she would be a good example to not stereotype Cognitive Types, just like how MBTI types are stereotyped, if she is a Te-lead.
"I will never assert that an individual must be the type I think they are. I am human, I still have subjectivity. I also think it's possible that an individual can be aware if they have been mistyped. Therefore, when it comes down to it, the ultimate decision to accept/reject a typing should come from that person themself. For better or worse, it is ultimately up to them...or some kind of perfect brain scan. haha"
-IluvHSJ