Bhagwan! looks SeTi to me too (with HEAVy Ni)... alt. NiFe (Se-heavy)
Well I think he shows how thin the limit can be between polar types... But as I said, I'm wondering to which extent the "dramatization" (not sure this is the proper word) of his demeanor affects his signals : his voice, the fact that he speaks with a very hypnotic tone... I'm pretty sure he was very image conscious and willing to make an impression on his public.
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Can an Se-lead have such a steady gaze for that long? I don't think I could do that. haha. Wouldn't there be more darting and exploring in his eyes, especially as a Pe-lead?
I actually think he might be in a perpetual Ni-zone out through this whole video, with occasional Se perk ups...It is just the steadiness of his gaze seems like something I wouldn't be able to do myself. His energy seems more Ji or Pi-lead too.
I didn't watch enough to judge if he was Fe or Fi, but I think Ni>Se is what I am seeing for him, even though when he does have his Se alert eyes, they are very intense. But then they go right back to looking sleepy. The top eyelids droop over almost instantaneously after the Se perk up.
It is just I can't relate to how steady he is staring...
Unless he is a J-lead of some sort who is strictly controlling his head/eyes to keep it very still. Or maybe, all that meditation does affect a person to keep their eyes quite still...?
And the picture of him smiling, but still having his eyes quite open, but in a Ni-sleepy gaze, makes me think he is P-lead and more like an Ni-lead.
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OshoJan 26, 2014 10:11:09 GMT -5 by DeletedHeron likes this
Well, I don't think Osho is tricky to type, nor one of those 'polar cases of a thin line between the lead and polar function'. Actually, to me his case is the contrary: his Se locking-ons and Se 'penetrating' 'hungry' fixed eyes are there present most of the time. He does display some Ni signals, and it couldn't be different since the possesses this function, but Se>Ni and Se-lead seems extremely clear to me. The only possible alt. would be TiSe.
Alasq25s and morsecode, you both make good points. There is a lack of 'perk-ups' and momentum builds that are associated with Se, but there's also a lock on, intense gaze that's interrupted by periods of an even more intense locked on gaze. There's also a lack of 'zone outs' that are associated with Ni. I'm not sure whether to lean towards Ni due to the lack of perk ups or towards Se due to the lack of zone-outs.
I'm just as perplexed as most of you regarding the hierarchy of Osho's Ni/Se. He's indeed a freak of nature which makes him fun to type. Where I differ from the rest of you is i'm seeing more Te and Fi. He projects literally zero Fe warmth whether it's in way of voice intonation, head nods, or perceptible smiles. Nor Ti meticulous hands. As for Te and Fi, his hands are stiff at the wrists and his fingers remain tight, and despite his movements being slow he performs multiple Te exacting hand chops. I've got to go with either. SeFi, NiTe, or TeNi.
roberts mmmh... i think, on the contrary, that he projects too much Fe in a way that looks parodistic. I think that the reason why i can be difficult to type is because is whole attitude is calculated and absolutely innatural, he's constantly acting and controlling his articulation in a way that makes a huuuuuge effect (last time i looked at this interview was 4 days ago and i still remember his points vividly). By the way, i was sure he was SeTi, even if i didn't post anything (because i was annoyed by the things he says in the interview) for reasons @morsecode already explained and i share. But there's also another thing. Lately i've been noticing that some SeTis have an eyebrow structure that reminds a lot of the one only some TeNis through many types have too, a sort of "manic scowl" (this is the term used for TeNis in general), that in both cases can be extremely exagerated like in
But there are many other examples, anyway, like Trevor Moore, Marshall Mathers, Cazuza, Tom Hardy... i can write more, but i think i could give you the pinterest board to check yourselvssaseas: