Post by chickenalfredo on Feb 19, 2014 23:53:58 GMT -5
Hi guys, in new here, and to be honest, i haven't had a chance to even look all the way through this forum, but the stuff in finding here is fascinating.
there's this guy cAlled thefacereader on instagram that claims he can do something similar to what you guys are trying to accomplish here, except he doesn't seem to have a peer review system or anything that makes his info seem reliable.
have you guys come across him? does his methodology ring at all with the way you guys are going about this?
Hey! I saw something in internet, i must confess that i didn't really understand his criteria :S but for what i saw i think it is completely detached from VR. From the few typings i saw, i didn't agree at all. I didn't even liked some of his comments about the readings he made. Oh, if anyone is interested here it is: www.iphoneogram.com/u/27161377
Post by chaoticbrain on Feb 21, 2014 18:56:16 GMT -5
He has bill gates and some other Fi guy together as "INFJs" and also seems to have liam neelson and Fidel castro together as INFJs, but on the other hand che's there correctly as ENFJ. I wonder what similarities he's seeing.
Post by chickenalfredo on Feb 22, 2014 0:31:51 GMT -5
chaoticbrainHeron I know a lot of his criteria are physiological and morphological. Like he believes that many fixed traits, such as structures in the eyes, can be indicators of different functions. Now there are some aspects about his model that I tend to agree on, but then other things seem way off. What type would you say Castro is?
chickenalfredo i typed Castro some months ago and for CT VR criteria he's blatantly FiNe. Pretty much the contrary of what thefacereader says. But also the people chaoticbrain mentioned like Liam Neeson (that is FiNe as well for CT) and bill gates (he has been read FiNe, but i'm not totally convinced. Surely something with Fi-Te Si-Ne). I saw that he uses some kind of criteria, but nothing is clearly explained. Are you aware of a website where is possible to read his theory?
cbrain: well, for the mbti circle he's either FeNi-NiFe, so is not so surprising in reality. But i would be curious of what he could think about other historical figures, like Stalin and Hitler.
Post by chickenalfredo on Feb 22, 2014 18:29:46 GMT -5
that's interesting...so According to CT model the ones that you have noticed that he has typed as wrong are NeFi's that have been misttped as NiFe's? Were there any other types that you noticed to have some sort of connection like that?
He's working on a website apparently, but its not public yet. id be able to tell you that it has a lot to do with smiling muscles, forehead muscles, eye structures, gaits, and voice tones. there's some similarities of his theory andCT, but there are some major contradictions too.
chickenalfredo mh... well, i noticed that something like the 85% of the readings can't match in the two systems. Like... Jeff Bridges, that for ct standards is FeSi and for thefr is INFJ (and i don't understand the reason ._.), or Hilary Clinton, CT SiTe and thefr ENTJ, or Eddie Murphy CT FeSi and thefc ESTP, just to name a few.
But in other cases it matches in incredible ways, like with George Cloney and Sean Connery, that when for most of the typing world are TeSis, Ct and thefr agree that they're both FeNi. And this is interesting, since i agreed with many of the FeNi typings, but with almost all the other types i couldn't agree at all and for CT are sometimes totally different types (christian bale ENTJ? wtf?).
And i even found some contradictory things the last times, in the few things he shared about the theory, he says that ENFJs have the procerus muscle extremely underlined respect to other types, like 50 cents that i remember he typed Fe lead (and for ct is FiSe)... yet he types Mike Tyson ISFP when he shares that same characteristic.