FiSe - Some Clear Videos

Would it be right to say that the difference between FiSe and SeFi could really be spotted by the emotional expressiveness of the eyes?

It is like I see FiSe eyes showing more expressions with their eyes/brows, like it REALLY shows if they are happy or sad or angry. I was reading the "summary of advanced cues" and read that Fi-leads would have their smiles go up into their eyes, more than the Se-lead, so that makes me believe that their eyes would be in a way... more expressive.


Like for many pictures of Marilyn Monroe (FiSe) laughing or smiling, her eyes become very small, they almost close.


In contrast to Mandy Moore (SeFi), her eyes are more open when she smiles. Well, when she laughs, they get small too, but not as small...like she is trying to keep them open.

Thanks for that sitbone!!!

Just a couple more questions, would an FiSe almost never exhibit a Pe perk-up? Or would it depend if they get really excited about something...

For eye-centric, this is when the eyes steer the face, right? So for example, it will appear as if the person looks left first, then the whole head starts to turn in the direction of their gaze. There will be a little bit of lag time between the eyes and head movements?

Then face-centric, we won't see this lag time? Both head and eyes will point at the same direction at the exact same time.

And will face-centric also be more like, the eyes have no control of the head's motion and can be darting and moving around, while the head stays fairly still?

The face/eye-centric is the one signal I am very interested in and wanting to get, but I feel like it's difficult for me to see. 

I'm really unsure about it, but here is some gifs I made to help me:

Here is Daniel Radcliff (SeFi), is this eye-centric?



His head is following his eye movements. I don't really see a lag like I thought there would be, though (should that happen?). But just the fact that his head is moving in that same zig-zag motion of his eyes is enough to say eye-centric (P-lead)?

And here is FiSe Marilyn:



Just the way her head whips around to see things makes it seem like she is face-centric? She is not steered by her eyes, but the entire face moves as one.

But then there is a moment towards the end where her eyes look up to the left of the screen and she nods to the right. Does this show more of how her eyes are not in control of her entire face, since her head moves however she wants it to, despite the eyes?

haha. Sorry, if I am getting this all wrong.

Theres also an interesting post about Ji vs Pe lead here.

cognitivetype.boards.net/thread/37/type-celebrity?page=4&scrollTo=449

So this is J-lead body stiffness (FiSe)?


Vs. P-lead body swaying (SeFi)?


The first gif, it is almost like I can draw a tight rectangle around her and she won't move outside that rectangle.
The second gif, if I draw a tight rectangle around her, she would bump around the walls of it because of how much she swaying.

I want to find a video clip of like a hyper and excited FiSe and see how that would look different from the SeFi. I wonder if they still won't sway and still maintain a rigid posture.

chaoticbrain

The video is very helpful. I like when he points out that the motions that he makes are "deliberate". Because I see movement in many types and often got confused. But saying that J-lead movement is more "deliberate" does help.

Because for P-leads, it really looks like they are moving without meaning to, they really do seem to sway.

sitbone

Thanks so much for the info.

I hope someone else on PerC can make a gif on the face/eye-centric signal, as well as the Se vs Ne eye movements relative to the head because they are signals that I really want to see. But in videos, I have a hard time isolating it.