I see Eminem presented in the beginning of this thread as a "clear example" of SeTi. I had thought he was typed elsewhere on the forum as FiSe. Is there a consensus on him?
Well, as far as I've seen... there is a consensus on SeTi And I agree with that.
I've seen him typed as 'ISFP' only in mbti circles but if this typing happened here in the forum too, I missed that.
Post by The Doctor on Jul 26, 2015 12:27:44 GMT -5
I'm seeing this as FeNi. Very much agree on the Beta quadra.
In the top video, he's got a lot of off screen arm gestures that hinge at the elbows. Very Je indicative. A great deal of Fe animation and warmth in his expressions. Se appears to be his play function (tertiary) in how he's looking at personal interactions. He's primarily concerned with the Fe, then using Se to support Fe dynamics. Most importantly, he's keying in on patterns (Ni) about how people interact (Fe) like a boss.
Lastly, watch how his fingers often freeze into emotional expressions, while swinging on Je elbow swinging. This is an Fe over Ti indicator. His fascination with precise finger movements in the second video seem much more like an Se play function manifestation than an Fe play function. Real time interaction and movement.
My diagnosis is one of those Ni-ENFj subtypes from Socionics. This is probably what's causing some of the P lead signals, as this subtype is P heavy.
Ni-ENFj
Intense, impulsive, unpredictable, magnetic. Mood is labile, activity levels are erratic. More forceful and domineering in how they engage with people. Has a piercing, raw visceral awareness for getting inside of peoples heads. Invasively deciphers them without restraint, knows what makes them tick, and how to work them. Likes to test people and thrives on getting reactions out of people, especially if it involves pushing the envelope. When unhealthy, they can be extremely manipulative and very controlling of others, and takes license to "shape" those close to them to whatever they deem "necessary" for that person. Within their controlled exterior swells a volatile edginess that tends to make others uneasy - the impression is that one never knows if/when they might explode and how severely. Furiously confrontational if provoked, the force of anger capable in this type has no equal. Though at the same time their intense and enigmatic presence often draws people in with a mesmerizing sway. Likes to be mysterious, eccentric, weird, and is often drawn to very abstract and mystical thinking. Often has a highly vivid imagination and a powerful visionary creativity. Makes decisions and acts through inspiration and instinct, rather than through intellect and reason. Can get obsessively fixated over notions of struggle and sacrifice, the sheer fanaticism of which can fuel imperatives of cosmic significance in their mind. More unhealthy ones will glorify violence and the darker macabre aspects of human nature.
Last Edit: Jul 26, 2015 12:29:26 GMT -5 by The Doctor
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