I'm thinking that Se/Ni would be better at actually perceiving the details than Si/Ne.....but I'm curious if it would really play out.
Based on the fact that I usually don't keep track of my surroundings...like what color things are, what clothes people wear, etc...
I would say for me personally, I wouldn't be able to describe them objectively....although I'm sure adrenaline would change things a bit.
I imagine it would be more like...
"He was big, like this (uses hands above my head to approximate height) much taller than me...and looked really rough, middle-aged...unshaven...had a face that kind of reminded me of Robert Dinero....maybe it was the chin..not sure?"
Now I have gotten better at knowing what they would need to catch them...so I would try to pay attention to the make and model of the car....take a picture of the license plate. But naturally, I would probably not pay attention to the color of the car.... or what clothes they wore, etc.
I would have been more focused on my emotions and how my body was feeling...and using my brain to get me out of the situation.
How would you describe something like this if you had to? Or even if you just were a witness to something?
(After writing this I realize just how Self-Pres 6 this sounds, lol)
Post by leeleechirps2.0 on Mar 20, 2018 22:33:32 GMT -5
Hmmm... he had a bad vibe I could smell him after he left. He smelled familiar but Not in a pleasant way. He was taller than me, and definitely a coward who looked like he was born in a small town to a single mom who was abusive and controlling- he definitely was not from around here and had serious issues. I think he had red shoes. Strange choice to wear while assaulting someone hmm but that’s probably part of his thing and he gets off on it and an adrenaline rush when he laces them up.
That's a curious question. I should preface this by saying that I don't know what's my axis for sure, but I suspect myself of being a Ne-user. Anytime the circumstances make me suspicious I focus on details and try to memorize them, I also take pictures and take note of time and place, and keep mentally a record of how things evolve. I can remember how that person is dressed, if he's right or left-handed, if he wears accessories and such, also tiny details like moles, scars... I'm not normally that alert, but I can become very meticulous with details if I think it's the case.
By the way, I knew it's Si that focuses on specific details. What made you think Se|Ni would be better at it? (When I first read about the functions, I made that guess too)
Edit [22.05.2018]: Sorry for the poor understanding I displayed here, I found out I may be actually on the SeNi axis. Regardless of my type, I now agree with Thorne. (spoiler)
I'm starting to wonder if there isn't some sort of emotional connection to Si which makes people more passionate about or connected to stored memories while Se would be more matter-of-fact. In a sense, this would make Ne/Si closer to, "This happened to me, and here are all the associated details that made it imapctful to me" while Se/Ni would be more like, "This is just a thing that happened, and here's exactly how it unfolded from what I remember."
How would I describe an assailant? Three broken ribs, a broken nose, nineteen missing teeth, and a concussion. Not really, but I couldn't resist.
Not an assailant, but I had a guy try to tag switch a $250 drill yesterday with a $100 drill.
I wrote the report and took a copy, at least a part of it says: "Caucasian male, approximately 55-60 years old, gray hair. At the time of occurrence, wearing orange sweater vest with white collared undershirt, light gray pleated slacks, and brown Derby shoes. Accompanied by Caucasian woman, approximately 50 years old with white hair wearing a blue and white checked dress with black shoes. Suspected fraud occurred at [time - redacted] on Register #[redacted]. Attempted tag switch on [product name A] (sale price $249.98) with barcode from [product name B] (sale price $99.98)."
LP contacted me this morning and asked how I remembered all that, because he verified that all of it was right (except the woman's hair was very light gray, not white). I still have no idea, it's sort of subconscious.
For the record, I don't know if I'm actually TeSi, so take that with a grain of salt.
Raezekt...I would also take pictures because I can't remember and my ability to remember details is very hit or miss. I thought Se would probably be the best at it because it would be objective perception of the physical world, where as Si is subjective perception. Like...I might remember someone gave me a creepy vibe, and I remember it was a store...but if I was asked to remember what he looked like or give details, I would struggle. I've seen Se dominant folks remember things almost as if they were looking at a picture!!! That's amazing.
Thorne.. nice catch! and the level of detail is astounding.... I wonder if Se and Si can both have a high level of detail...but somehow it's all stored away differently?
If the Jungian perspective is correct, Si would be somewhat cartographic, taking the subject's personal interpretation of the details and drawing a diagram of it for later reference. On the same note, Se would be highly objective, wherein the subject would basically 'record' the information in its raw form.
Nardi said that Se was better at details as long as the event seemed meaningful in some way. Michael Pierce suggests that Si is highly interpretative and impressionistic, comparing details from experience A to prior experience B. Basically, the Se view of a red ball would be closer to, "Gee, that's a bright red ball" whilst the Si view of a red ball would be closer to, "That ball looks like the same red of my mother's dress."
I don't remember much about it unless the situation calls for specific attention. Seriously, my detail memory is really hit-or-miss, but once a situation gets amped up, I sort of tick into, "This is important: must remember" mode.
I've been pondering the differences between Ne/Si and Se/Ni memory. I'm starting to wonder if there isn't some sort of emotional connection to Si which makes people more passionate about or connected to stored memories while Se would be more matter-of-fact. In a sense, this would make Ne/Si closer to, "This happened to me, and here are all the associated details that made it imapctful to me" while Se/Ni would be more like, "This is just a thing that happened, and here's exactly how it unfolded from what I remember."
This is all a bit rambly and hypothetical, so take this with a mountain of salt.