Watched the first 5 min or so and you probably aren't going to lije this cause I know you are really looking for Fi leads... But that smile shows up wide then just as suddenly as it appears... Its neutralized...
If i had to guess about her P functions i would also say Ne/Si, but i am much less confident about my ability to identify this from Ne toggling alone...
I thought i saw a lot of Ti disengage down paired with her emotional neutralization too
She seems introverted to me...
I still cant figure J/P to save my life so im not even going to try here. She reminds me somewhat of a person i think is a TiNe and somewhat of a person i think is SiFe... So im undecided between the two.
I do think i saw some Te brow raises and Se perk ups, but i can never tell those apart from Ne confused eyebrows and Ne excitement so i rarely base anything on them
I'm gonna say FiSe, with strong Te. She has that signature breathy/airy articulation, coupled with frequent pausing and disengaging down, which leads me to think she's an Fi lead. As for her perception functions, she doesn't really seem to scowl, so it's difficult to tell, but she does have the perma-bored drooping eyelids, and she zones out and locks on like an Ni/Se user, which leaves FiSe as my conclusion. I say strong Te because her giddiness seems to fade fairly quickly, and she regains her Te composure (you can see this at 3:20 and 4:08), but she still has an overall fragile demeanour, so I think Fi>Te, but not by too much.
"People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive." - Blaise Pascal
kookiplopz, I think you're definitely right in seeing Anna Karina as FiSe. And a similar shade of FiSe Monica Bellucci.
as johndoe said: "She has that signature breathy/airy articulation, coupled with frequent pausing and disengaging down, which leads me to think she's an Fi lead. As for her perception functions, she doesn't really seem to scowl, so it's difficult to tell, but she does have the perma-bored drooping eyelids, and she zones out and locks on like an Ni/Se user, which leaves FiSe as my conclusion."
Very accurate analysis. Even though forumers sometimes disagree in the reading of signals, most of the times what forumers see is the same.
IluvHSJ thanks xD, even though in my experience with FiSes, we don't tend to see ourselves as that beautiful, unfortunately xD I've always had the tendency to focus on the parts that I don't like in myself and that need improvement and it seems a common thing among FiSes. Maybe the impression you get is because 99% of FiSes (especially females) have that 'baby delicate soft face, with round features on the face, with very prominent tension in their cheeks, which make their cheeks stand out, it's like a 'blush effect', and it's a kind of beauty that doesn't look threatening or intimidating to other females, so it gets sympathy. Another thing I note among FiSe females (on the board and real life) is that they are ultra feminine and delicate, even if they're wearing more 'manly' and less feminine clothes. It's at the same time accepting and accepted features (that remember toddlers xD), so it gives that impression of beauty.
Heron describes FiSe's face as strawberry-shaped. That makes sense imo.
I think also that the expressions FiSes make are very peculiar, we don't have a veeery wide repertoire of facial expressions, and we tend to smile in a shy and childlike way, like seen below, with lots muscular tension around the mouth and cheeks. The face width tends to the largest under the eyes zone (see blue circle) and then there's usually another prominence in width in the aerea of the pink circle.
I had been thinking about opening a thread about the facial shape and expressions of this CT for a awhile.. but the lack of time is problematic.
how can this be Fi.... if supposedly I am Fe/Ti and the person on the right is Fe/Ti???
Not saying its untrue... just that I am totally and completely baffled...
I really do appreciate the circles btw... i was NEVER looking at those areas of the face when gauging a smile... I circled the areas I've been looking at... which i thought were indicative of the muscle locations and the concept of muscles going up into the eyes...
I would never take one pic in isolation too seriously when typing someone. Lots of pics together can be more reliable. If CT VR didn't step all the time on such subtle and delicate territory, it wouldn't have taken it so many million years to appear on earth - and... it's a mix of science and "art" imo (I know some people would disagree in the art part he he). If we take MANY pictures (and especially with footage) of Anna Karina, her (unseelie) Fi becomes more apparent than just from that picture in isolation (that picture is NO proof of Fi usage - and i didn't intend that and I didn't say that it was an evidence of Fi usage). When I posted that picture next to mine and made the circles, I was focusing on a commonly found FACIAL SHAPE and childlike unguarded vibe commonly found amongst FiSes (in trying to figure out why alasq25 finds this CT's face visually appealing (but I'm certain that not EVERY FiSe can be included in those circles and that 'toddler' facial shape, AT ALL. And I'm sure that some people who are not FiSe share those features (so it's not a distinctive signal of ANY of the 8 functions). I was not creating/presenting a 'unique signal' for Fi-usage, Fi-lead or FiSe. I was simply sharing an observation about a commonly face shape found in FiSes). I was NOT pointing out those circles as distinctive signals of FiSe, not Fi, nor Se, nor Ni, nor Te. Maybe (maybe yes, maybe not) I should have spent more time writing that to avoid being misunderstood, but really I unfortunatelly have no time anymore to spend so much time and energy in the forum as I did in the past, unfortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately.
WARNING: I repeated myself many times in this present post. - this post is repetitive. I repeated some points. I said many times the same things with different words and even with the same words.
@emingtonw Marilyn Monroe is an FiSe with a wide smile. This is why I get confused with smiles cuz they both can look Fe. There is a thread on this subtle difference where Erifrail said Fi smiles can be wide, but they will clash with the cheeks. The Fi cheeks will have inherent tension, so the smile will push against the cheeks tension and look a lot more...tight? And Fe smiles on the other hand fills in the cheeks that were neutral. it is subtle and hard for me to notice, but erifrail said it was a key signal to distinguish...any help hereabout more of how others interpret it would be appreciated.
You also see that she doesnt seem to snarl at all.
Yea, I am envious of the high feminity and those Fi puffy cheeks. Even my guy celeb crush has awesome puffy Fi cheeks and has actually been mistaken for agirl sometimes. lol. His features are so soft and he hates it and wishes to look more manly. he will be nameless for now btw. haha. sorry. But some FiSe dont look like him at all like 50 cent....
"I will never assert that an individual must be the type I think they are. I am human, I still have subjectivity. I also think it's possible that an individual can be aware if they have been mistyped. Therefore, when it comes down to it, the ultimate decision to accept/reject a typing should come from that person themself. For better or worse, it is ultimately up to them...or some kind of perfect brain scan. haha"
-IluvHSJ
quoting IluvHSJ: "Even my guy celeb crush has awesome puffy Fi cheeks and has actually been mistaken for agirl sometimes. lol. His features are so soft and he hates it and wishes to look more manly. he will be nameless for now btw. haha. sorry. But some FiSe dont look like him at all like 50 cent...."
IMO a very "Ying" vibe is exuded from most FiSe men, just like the female FiSes. Never in life I had an FiSe crush xD (and probably not even a high-Fi-user crush. I think it would just be impossible for me to feel romantically/pysically attracted to someone of my same CT. In the first bio I wrote and deleted I mentioned I had a platonic FiSe crush many years ago, but then I realized I was probably mistyping him... but it's been so many years that I don't even remember his face well... but he was possibly TiSe.
chaoticbrain, you mentioned female TiSes, I noted they're scarce in the TiSe board... if you remember moar TiSe female celebrity, let us know.
Oh well for TiSe females, there was a girl I posted awhile ago, Joni mitchell I think you agreed with TiSe for her.
Ohh, fanks! I had completely forgotten about Joni! Yes, I remember I totally agreed with TiSe for her! She's now starring the TiSe boaaarrrd.
It's funny that when I was looking for pics of Joni on google images, there were some photos of TiSe Taylor Swift 0_o in the middle of the results. I noticed then that they do share some similarities in their TiSe faces.
I see FiSe in Anna Karina for many of the same reasons mentioned above. She has a lot of the Marylin Monroe feel to her. I find the FiSe femininity really attractive.
"It is the theory that decides what we can observe" -Einstein