@morsecode, that songs reminds me of someone that's possibly a PeFi.
Talking about Pe+Fi,
All the lyrics are written by Beth Gibbons and I don't know which functions does she use, but I have the impression she uses Ne/Si and Fi/Te and, even if she's introverted in the commonly understood way, I can't exactly tell. My bets are on FiNe. Unfortunately there's no footage of the few interviews she has been part of or if there's, she's not speaking in front of a camera or she keeps it brief. I guess she dislikes media attention. We can listen to her though. I like her modesty. She considers herself pretty normal or ordinary, like most people. She is the voice of the suffering we endure in life. She knows she's not singing something we cannot experience as humans. She knows she's not special. She's just another human. Not less. Not more. That's what I like about her. I also love her melancholic voice and I love the musical project she's part of, Portishead.
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The movie (The Beach) is about ideal community life in a secret island that ends into a nightmare when Ti/Fe values are taken too far.
I'm going to have to politely disagree about that being Fe music.... the play is smooth, tension-less, and has a constant flow effect. Also the singing sounds "airy"
....seems like the brainchild of (Ni and Fi) IMO
This is what I would call Fe music: though there are other cognitive functions mixed into these songs I hear the Fe first and foremost. Its like emotion just free flowing from the musicians (Though I do admit Robert Plant is about the most emotional sounding Fi user I've ever heard)
(Jimmy Page) Led Zeppelin - Since Iβve Been Loving You:
Janis Joplin - Kozmic Blues:
Seth Bernard and May (Erlewine) Bernard (Dinosaur & Overhaul)
Hmm, actually I was not dreaming, it was really Fe (more specifically Beta) since both Dario and the singer are Ti/Fe users, probably TiSe or SeTi, I've not looked in detail.
I remember that song that my TeNi father always played in the car when I was a child, like everytime we went on holidays, he would constantly put it, so it kinda haunted my childhood, along with other songs. Unsurprisingly (?), the singer is a TeNi too ^^
The (French) lyrics are a bit complex but let's say it's a love song with a mysterious and sensual aura. I learnt later that it was dedicated to Lisbon (the city). The video is interesting, it looks like Se (+ Ni weird vision?):
Post by At-Ease Zazeef on Oct 8, 2014 14:28:41 GMT -5
It's interesting to me that emingtonw heard Zeppelin and Janis Joplin as expression of Fe, cause I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Page and Robert Plant are Fi/Te users (SiTe I suspect for Page, he's definitely an Fi-user, and I suspect FiSe for Plant), and that Joplin is Delta (in my own suspicions as well as in what discussion has occured over here in this thread).
So I think they're actually pretty good examples of Fi/Te music. Shrug.
That said, music is collaborative on soooo many levels, not just between the members of a given band, but also with producers and writers (sometimes), and how much any given artist learns from the artists that came before them (who belong to a pool including every type) and the audience to which they are reaching with their music. As T.S. Eliot said of poets (and by extrapolation, all artists), the creative act is one of extinguishing personality, not finding or expressing it (this is a paraphrase, of course. Might try to hunt up the actual quote later. I know it came from his essay "Tradition and the Young Talent"). Will artifacts of the creative mind's nature remain in the final product? Sure (and I guess that's what this thread is looking for), but, ultimately, it's the shedding of the individual in order to reach the collective that art is all about; giving the world something with which any given audience member can resonate, regardless of the superficial differences between him or her and the artist (which would include type, rendered as superficial only in consideration of the nature of oneness of existence underlying all).
I think you're right about them all being Fi/Te users though I have not looked in detail. Led Zeppelin is a band so there must be a mix of Fe/Ti and Fi/Te I guess.
I agree that art is supposed to reach everyone's soul and is not a self-centered act (usually...) but I still think the artist can't help leaving him/her imprint, every artist has his/her own style and interpretation of art eventhough his ideal is to reach others of course. It's like taking a different approach/style to arrive to the same goal. For e.g., I just can't picture an FeSi having Pink's style/persona (I'm not a fan of her, just a random expample), not that they can't understand or appreciate her music. I can go on and on with other artists. I agree, for bands, it's more meddled but still, except the ones where there is a clear leader.
I agree that art is supposed to reach everyone's soul and is not a self-centered act (usually...) but I still think the artist can't help leaving him/her imprint, every artist has his/her own style and interpretation of art eventhough his ideal is to reach others of course.
Reminded of this (from an excellent documentary available on Netflix!):
Post by At-Ease Zazeef on Oct 10, 2014 14:12:34 GMT -5
peppergirl ooh, the Olivia Ruiz music and your mention of heavy Fi totally reminded me of something!
This is from a video game I played way back, a game I didn't even care that much for the gameplay of, but rather returned to time and time again for the feel of it, this wonderful, sorrowful, enchanted feel expressed through every bit of the game's aesthetics (music, art style, dialogue, etc.) . Check out this little sequence that would play if you didn't touch any buttons and left the game on the start-up screen. I can totally see it for Fi now, and maybe Si/Ne. Thanks!
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