Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 15:32:05 GMT -5
(sorry in advance for any spelling or grammar mistakes, English in not my native language)
Hi everyone,
What role does Ni play in FiNe?
I'm FiNe and aside from the question above I would like to share an experience I had in relation to what I believe would be Ni, as well as my personal analysis of the experience. I would be happy to hear your thoughts and insights.
As this experience has a "mystical" quality to it, I hope that I am believed (I realize the stereotypes associated with FiNe won't add to my credibility, but this indeed happened.)
About two years ago, I was walking into my parents bedroom to get something out of the closet. I suddenly experienced 3 very quick flashbacks - (only one which I still remember, the other two were more quick and are thus currently vague). The images were of PAST EVENTS - the images I saw people that I knew. In reaction, I said "OMG" putting my hand over my mouth. I KNEW something that was to happen in the future - it was a realiziation "out of the blue". (I didn't *see* the future event, but KNEW it would happen). The experience "shook" me and I actually lay down on my parent's bed for a few seconds to "recuperate". About three months afterwards, it became a reality.
Before I offer my analysis of what I had experienced, I would like to mention a few things:
1. I have never ever experienced anything like this before, and doubt I ever will again.
2. I am definitely FiNe, and I almost never get any intuitions of predictability regarding anything.
3. In the time prior to the experience there were consiously no previous thoughts associated with the content of the images.
4. The flashbacks were very much like what is sometimes shown in some movies - quick flashes of images occuring in what felt like in the "lower back of my head".
5. All LOGIC was AGAINST the intuition. All evidence pointed out in the opposite direction of the event. Had I told anyone about this intuition before the event happened, I would have been told it makes no sense at all, for the simple fact that all the facts showed it didn't make ANY sense for that to happen.
My analysis
Going back and trying to understand why or what caused this to happen, here is what I noticed:
1. During the year leading up this intuition, I was the most INTROVERTED I had ever been, not in the sense of lack of socialization (I did socialize normally), but in the sense that I was very "in myself".. I would dare say closer to my subconsious than usually. This had to do with the fact that I was suffering from mild anxiety. (I've never been on any medication, and today I am completely anxiety free. I was always and still am otherwise mentally healthy). I think the anxiety pushed me into myself even more than usual, making me more introverted.*
2. During that year I was unconsciously trying to understand one thing and one thing only: what does this mean (*this* being the interaction and dynamics of a certain group of people I spent much time with) and WHERE IS THIS ALL GOING. Only in RETROSPECT I realize I was doing this almost obsessively but not consciously.
I think that the enhanced introversion along with my brain obsessing about where this was all going was generally creating an Ni predicition. The questions are: how come if I'm not Ni user? and even if I was - how come it was such an intensified experience (flashbacks, sudden knowing, certainty)
?? Even though I have read description of Ni operating in this manner, I have not actually heard of any NiFe or NiTe personally describe experiencing it in this somewhat dramatic manner..?
3. The stangest thing about all this is not what one would assume. Not the flashbacks or the knowing or event that it happened were as strange (and a bit unnerving) as the following: the CERTAINTY I experienced regarding the intuition. It was not just a much higher level of certainty that I had ever experienced before. The certainty was QUALITATIVELY DIFFERENT than ANYTHING I had ever experienced.
Perhpas it is my Fi, but something within me feels that this QUALITATIVE difference of CERTAINTY is the most SIGNIFICANT factor in this experience. It nothing I had ever experienced before. It was a TYPE certainty that I would describe as being parallel to "regular" certainty, rather than being high on the scale. That is, I wasn't 100% percent sure, I was sure in a way that is qaulitively different than I had ever been sure of anything in my life. It was as if logic - which could have potentially objected the intuition - was a joke. Logic countering the intuition just evaporated, it was a joke. This is the best I can explain this. I hope I am taken seriously, I am writing this in the hopes that science might benefit. Perhaps I should emphasize that ther was nothing "spiritual" about this experience, it was stange in the sense that I had never experienced it before, but I am certain it was my brain and unconsious working together. Definitely not claiming "prophetic powers" or anything in that direction.
This experience made me realize, among other things, that there is so much potential in our psyche that we don't yet know how to access.
NOTE:
In this video it is claimed tha van gogh picked up on patterns in the universe (intuition) while he was in the ASYLUM, which manifested in starry night, but did NOT appear in any of his other painting - drawn when he was mentally stable and healthy. This makes me wonder if lack of mental stability actually inhances introversion and consequentially intuition? If I'm not Jung says the more introverted a person is the closer he is to his own subconsious which is the place of intuition...? might explain why many great works of genius were created during mental instability..
Would be interested in your feedback and also in understanding how you think Ni usually opperates in FiNe?
Hi everyone,
What role does Ni play in FiNe?
I'm FiNe and aside from the question above I would like to share an experience I had in relation to what I believe would be Ni, as well as my personal analysis of the experience. I would be happy to hear your thoughts and insights.
As this experience has a "mystical" quality to it, I hope that I am believed (I realize the stereotypes associated with FiNe won't add to my credibility, but this indeed happened.)
About two years ago, I was walking into my parents bedroom to get something out of the closet. I suddenly experienced 3 very quick flashbacks - (only one which I still remember, the other two were more quick and are thus currently vague). The images were of PAST EVENTS - the images I saw people that I knew. In reaction, I said "OMG" putting my hand over my mouth. I KNEW something that was to happen in the future - it was a realiziation "out of the blue". (I didn't *see* the future event, but KNEW it would happen). The experience "shook" me and I actually lay down on my parent's bed for a few seconds to "recuperate". About three months afterwards, it became a reality.
Before I offer my analysis of what I had experienced, I would like to mention a few things:
1. I have never ever experienced anything like this before, and doubt I ever will again.
2. I am definitely FiNe, and I almost never get any intuitions of predictability regarding anything.
3. In the time prior to the experience there were consiously no previous thoughts associated with the content of the images.
4. The flashbacks were very much like what is sometimes shown in some movies - quick flashes of images occuring in what felt like in the "lower back of my head".
5. All LOGIC was AGAINST the intuition. All evidence pointed out in the opposite direction of the event. Had I told anyone about this intuition before the event happened, I would have been told it makes no sense at all, for the simple fact that all the facts showed it didn't make ANY sense for that to happen.
My analysis
Going back and trying to understand why or what caused this to happen, here is what I noticed:
1. During the year leading up this intuition, I was the most INTROVERTED I had ever been, not in the sense of lack of socialization (I did socialize normally), but in the sense that I was very "in myself".. I would dare say closer to my subconsious than usually. This had to do with the fact that I was suffering from mild anxiety. (I've never been on any medication, and today I am completely anxiety free. I was always and still am otherwise mentally healthy). I think the anxiety pushed me into myself even more than usual, making me more introverted.*
2. During that year I was unconsciously trying to understand one thing and one thing only: what does this mean (*this* being the interaction and dynamics of a certain group of people I spent much time with) and WHERE IS THIS ALL GOING. Only in RETROSPECT I realize I was doing this almost obsessively but not consciously.
I think that the enhanced introversion along with my brain obsessing about where this was all going was generally creating an Ni predicition. The questions are: how come if I'm not Ni user? and even if I was - how come it was such an intensified experience (flashbacks, sudden knowing, certainty)
?? Even though I have read description of Ni operating in this manner, I have not actually heard of any NiFe or NiTe personally describe experiencing it in this somewhat dramatic manner..?3. The stangest thing about all this is not what one would assume. Not the flashbacks or the knowing or event that it happened were as strange (and a bit unnerving) as the following: the CERTAINTY I experienced regarding the intuition. It was not just a much higher level of certainty that I had ever experienced before. The certainty was QUALITATIVELY DIFFERENT than ANYTHING I had ever experienced.
Perhpas it is my Fi, but something within me feels that this QUALITATIVE difference of CERTAINTY is the most SIGNIFICANT factor in this experience. It nothing I had ever experienced before. It was a TYPE certainty that I would describe as being parallel to "regular" certainty, rather than being high on the scale. That is, I wasn't 100% percent sure, I was sure in a way that is qaulitively different than I had ever been sure of anything in my life. It was as if logic - which could have potentially objected the intuition - was a joke. Logic countering the intuition just evaporated, it was a joke. This is the best I can explain this. I hope I am taken seriously, I am writing this in the hopes that science might benefit. Perhaps I should emphasize that ther was nothing "spiritual" about this experience, it was stange in the sense that I had never experienced it before, but I am certain it was my brain and unconsious working together. Definitely not claiming "prophetic powers" or anything in that direction.
This experience made me realize, among other things, that there is so much potential in our psyche that we don't yet know how to access.
NOTE:
In this video it is claimed tha van gogh picked up on patterns in the universe (intuition) while he was in the ASYLUM, which manifested in starry night, but did NOT appear in any of his other painting - drawn when he was mentally stable and healthy. This makes me wonder if lack of mental stability actually inhances introversion and consequentially intuition? If I'm not Jung says the more introverted a person is the closer he is to his own subconsious which is the place of intuition...? might explain why many great works of genius were created during mental instability..
Would be interested in your feedback and also in understanding how you think Ni usually opperates in FiNe?
