Post by Auburn on May 16, 2017 10:46:25 GMT -5
Ok! i'm going to try to settle this case as much for others as for myself, regarding polarized Fe-leads.
We've elaborated on the polarized Si-leads, Ni-leads, Te-leads... etc, but never touched deeply on what an Fe-lead looks like vultologically when their Ti is pronounced and integrated. I wanna unpack this starting first with Barack Obama:
(no need to watch it all)
I've been tempted to see Obama as TiNe many many times, because of his excessive use of Ti.
Obama displays what, on the surface, would qualify as Ti-lead qualities. By proportion, his energy goes inward (I) more than it goes outward (E). He does more meticulous pausing and neutralization than he does Je signaling.
However, there are 2 major problems with typing Obama as TiNe. And these are qualia signals.
- Conductor energy
- High-F valuing
One quality mentioned in the profiles for FeNi and FeSi is that they feel settled in their body. This applies to Pi-leads as well, and is in opposition to how Ti-leads will be more suspended (especially TiNe) in their bodies with a kind of doubtful energy and bouncy delivery. We see in Obama a quaint control of expressions, an unhurried delivery, rather than the haphazard manifestation we see in high-Ji types.
This is because when a high-Ji type tries to use their Je function, it comes out with a degree of exertion/desperation. Sorta like someone trying to perform a complex maneuver they haven't practiced before. The hands stutter, the head bobbles slightly. Often there's a rephrasing that follows right after a gesticulaiton, since Je doesn't come out perfect the first time.
To demonstrate this, we can compare against TiNe-Fe Amy Cuddy:
Notice how, even though she's emitting more Je energy "per second" than Obama, the quality of her emissions is saturated with Ne's bounce (quickness), reviser doubt, and adaptability. Obama, on the other hand, is sunken into his energy, and each arm or head gesture has finality to it. That's the conductor energy.
The other issue is that for Obama, Fe isn't something that has to be turned on. It's on standby 24/7. Whereas for high-Ti types like Cuddy, Fe is something that has to make a trip from the polar to the primary whenever it's called upon. And even if they make the trip often and rapidly (as Cuddy does) there is energy expended in that trip. And that can be observed.
Sprinting up a flight of stairs leaves you a bit winded and strained. When Ti-leads channel their Fe, it looks like that. There's a hint of exaggeration present. Either that or it looks 'placid' from its default position as polar. Subtle smiles with kindness and gentleness but little yang impact.
Inversely, like a tiger, or a lion, high-Fe types just have that forwardness running behind their composure incessantly. Even when they're not moving, movement is just a breath away and they're already where they need to be, in order to "deliver" the ethos. As such, they don't even need to do much more than a small push outward to give a firm impact.
FeNi-Ti Carl Sagan is another example of this:
Notice how his energy is very reserved, methodical and poised (Ji). Yet his energy is settled, honed-in, forward, and warm/swelling. And here are Sagan and Obama next to each other, showing the similarities in vultology (best viewed full-screen):
We've elaborated on the polarized Si-leads, Ni-leads, Te-leads... etc, but never touched deeply on what an Fe-lead looks like vultologically when their Ti is pronounced and integrated. I wanna unpack this starting first with Barack Obama:
(no need to watch it all)
I've been tempted to see Obama as TiNe many many times, because of his excessive use of Ti.
Obama displays what, on the surface, would qualify as Ti-lead qualities. By proportion, his energy goes inward (I) more than it goes outward (E). He does more meticulous pausing and neutralization than he does Je signaling.
However, there are 2 major problems with typing Obama as TiNe. And these are qualia signals.
- Conductor energy
- High-F valuing
One quality mentioned in the profiles for FeNi and FeSi is that they feel settled in their body. This applies to Pi-leads as well, and is in opposition to how Ti-leads will be more suspended (especially TiNe) in their bodies with a kind of doubtful energy and bouncy delivery. We see in Obama a quaint control of expressions, an unhurried delivery, rather than the haphazard manifestation we see in high-Ji types.
This is because when a high-Ji type tries to use their Je function, it comes out with a degree of exertion/desperation. Sorta like someone trying to perform a complex maneuver they haven't practiced before. The hands stutter, the head bobbles slightly. Often there's a rephrasing that follows right after a gesticulaiton, since Je doesn't come out perfect the first time.
To demonstrate this, we can compare against TiNe-Fe Amy Cuddy:
Notice how, even though she's emitting more Je energy "per second" than Obama, the quality of her emissions is saturated with Ne's bounce (quickness), reviser doubt, and adaptability. Obama, on the other hand, is sunken into his energy, and each arm or head gesture has finality to it. That's the conductor energy.
The other issue is that for Obama, Fe isn't something that has to be turned on. It's on standby 24/7. Whereas for high-Ti types like Cuddy, Fe is something that has to make a trip from the polar to the primary whenever it's called upon. And even if they make the trip often and rapidly (as Cuddy does) there is energy expended in that trip. And that can be observed.
Sprinting up a flight of stairs leaves you a bit winded and strained. When Ti-leads channel their Fe, it looks like that. There's a hint of exaggeration present. Either that or it looks 'placid' from its default position as polar. Subtle smiles with kindness and gentleness but little yang impact.
Inversely, like a tiger, or a lion, high-Fe types just have that forwardness running behind their composure incessantly. Even when they're not moving, movement is just a breath away and they're already where they need to be, in order to "deliver" the ethos. As such, they don't even need to do much more than a small push outward to give a firm impact.
FeNi-Ti Carl Sagan is another example of this:
Notice how his energy is very reserved, methodical and poised (Ji). Yet his energy is settled, honed-in, forward, and warm/swelling. And here are Sagan and Obama next to each other, showing the similarities in vultology (best viewed full-screen):
