Post by Auburn on Sept 17, 2017 16:14:13 GMT -5
Hey!
So this thread is dedicated to exploring the nuances between SeTi-Ti and TiSe-Se, as there's been some confusion about it in the past. Hopefully it can also offer some insights to our SeTi members! Please feel free to pitch in.
What I have noticed is that TiSe-Se can be very proactive in the general sense. Outward energy and engagement. But it always stays within the rigid container of a judgment type. So much so that they might resemble FeNi more.
TiSe-Se
SeTi-Ti
In contrast, SeTi-Ti actually have less visible energy than a TiSe-Se. This is also why SeTi-Ti are IST temperamentally and TiSe-Se are EST temperamentally. It appears to me that it is possible for introverts and extroverts to switch over to the other temperament in this manner; at the extremes of developmental influence.
However, how we distinguish these two from each other remains the same.
Firstly, Brownlee in the above video is vlogging (and is an experienced vlogger) - which is a setting that can bring out Se more than is typical. If we observe him in a more interview-like setting we see this:
And then we can compare the rigidity of his posture to that of JetPlane48 as such:
^ whole-body coordination, very defined halts/accentuations, angular, contained
Versus
^ receding but fluid. angular gestures never quite "delineate" themselves with clarity but are part of an ongoing flow
The main signal difference to look out for here is
J-5: Subordinate Perception vs
P-5: Subordinate Judgment
"Natively proactive" and "natively reactive" energy is a little harder to distinguish, and ...unlike the way Jung phrased it in Psychological Types, the data suggests to me that the first/main dichotomy is actually J-vs-P. And one's level of extroversion or introversion is not definitively indicative of type, as much as function modulation level.
Modulating lower processes can change energy vectors, but one's J or P energy doesn't flip/flop that way.
Or at least that has seemed to be the most consistent aspect of type up to this point.
What do you guys think?
So this thread is dedicated to exploring the nuances between SeTi-Ti and TiSe-Se, as there's been some confusion about it in the past. Hopefully it can also offer some insights to our SeTi members! Please feel free to pitch in.
What I have noticed is that TiSe-Se can be very proactive in the general sense. Outward energy and engagement. But it always stays within the rigid container of a judgment type. So much so that they might resemble FeNi more.
TiSe-Se
SeTi-Ti
In contrast, SeTi-Ti actually have less visible energy than a TiSe-Se. This is also why SeTi-Ti are IST temperamentally and TiSe-Se are EST temperamentally. It appears to me that it is possible for introverts and extroverts to switch over to the other temperament in this manner; at the extremes of developmental influence.
However, how we distinguish these two from each other remains the same.
Firstly, Brownlee in the above video is vlogging (and is an experienced vlogger) - which is a setting that can bring out Se more than is typical. If we observe him in a more interview-like setting we see this:
And then we can compare the rigidity of his posture to that of JetPlane48 as such:
^ whole-body coordination, very defined halts/accentuations, angular, contained
Versus
^ receding but fluid. angular gestures never quite "delineate" themselves with clarity but are part of an ongoing flow
The main signal difference to look out for here is
J-5: Subordinate Perception vs
P-5: Subordinate Judgment
"Natively proactive" and "natively reactive" energy is a little harder to distinguish, and ...unlike the way Jung phrased it in Psychological Types, the data suggests to me that the first/main dichotomy is actually J-vs-P. And one's level of extroversion or introversion is not definitively indicative of type, as much as function modulation level.
Modulating lower processes can change energy vectors, but one's J or P energy doesn't flip/flop that way.
Or at least that has seemed to be the most consistent aspect of type up to this point.
What do you guys think?
