Behavior and congnitive functions
Jun 8, 2013 19:02:50 GMT -5 by Heron
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Post by Heron on Jun 8, 2013 19:02:50 GMT -5
After the chat in tinychat of today i started to think about some strict correlations between the J functions and the behavior correlated, these are only "free running" thoughts about it (if someone does not agree with me is invited to say why 
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Ti/Fe and Te/Fi are sometimes described like: subjective logic/objective ethics and objective logic/subjective ethics, or Internal thoughts/External emotions and External thoughts/Internal emotions, but i think is pretty misleading put this in that way, i think these two oscillations are not only about judging but non less important about understanding, i think this is the right keyword for the J functions, more completely Ti/Fe is subjective understanding and Te/Fi is objective understading, without split the two related functions for each oscillation.
Ti/Fe: An Fe user tend naturally to tune with other people, basically, because he want to understand other people feelings, he wants to make the feel the feelings of other people like is owns. In the same way Ti is subjective understanding of things, the actual facts aren't enough because there's no apparent explanations on it, and sometimes the first answers a Ti user found aren't enough because the answers do not seems to go deep enough to have a complete understanding of things (this is quite frustating for an heavy Te user). I think for the same reason a Fe user tends to be more free on sharing his emotions and thoughts: there's a inner push on putting all the cards on the table to permit others to understand his own feeling and thoughts, this is also a request, because if a Fe user put his things on the table to be understanded, is an invitation for others to do the same. Another thing is the constant, permanent question in mind "am i doing it right?" or "does this make any sense?", for an high Fe user is more like "am i right in this situation?" "I'm reacting in the right way?".
Te/Fi this is more difficult to understand because i can watch this only with an external eye, but basically: is about factual realities, even Fi. A Te user tends to concentrate more on the pragmatic applications of things, he can enjoy explanations and more deep arguments as well, but he doesn't consider it so important in a practical way. He does the same with his feelings, a Fi user is a little unaware of the general vibe in a room: if an introverted Fe can find suffocating make contacts with other people in a party, he's still absorbing the general feelings in the room, and that's enough to be "happy" or simply to get a good mood, ot the other hand an Fi user can have hard times, he can understand via Te that the others are having a good time in that room as a matter of observable fact, so, if he's good at socializing he can probably be one of the happier persons in the room, if not, the general mood isn't enough to make him feel better, so he tries to do something that makes him feel better, or he tries accumulate tension until he risks to explode (I've seen it happen with a Fi lead acquaintance) basically because he is more concetrated in what he's actually feeling in that particular moment, it became a loop: "..i'm not feeling good, the others are having a good moment and i'm not feeling good..." because he rechecks constantly what he's actually feeling in that particular moment. This is why sometimes FiNe don't feel completely understood, they consider their feelings a matter of fact that the others are incapable to fully understand.
with the perceiving funtions for the moment i don't have any constructive thought, so in the future i'll write some more.
(yeee this is my 100th post
)
).Ti/Fe and Te/Fi are sometimes described like: subjective logic/objective ethics and objective logic/subjective ethics, or Internal thoughts/External emotions and External thoughts/Internal emotions, but i think is pretty misleading put this in that way, i think these two oscillations are not only about judging but non less important about understanding, i think this is the right keyword for the J functions, more completely Ti/Fe is subjective understanding and Te/Fi is objective understading, without split the two related functions for each oscillation.
Ti/Fe: An Fe user tend naturally to tune with other people, basically, because he want to understand other people feelings, he wants to make the feel the feelings of other people like is owns. In the same way Ti is subjective understanding of things, the actual facts aren't enough because there's no apparent explanations on it, and sometimes the first answers a Ti user found aren't enough because the answers do not seems to go deep enough to have a complete understanding of things (this is quite frustating for an heavy Te user). I think for the same reason a Fe user tends to be more free on sharing his emotions and thoughts: there's a inner push on putting all the cards on the table to permit others to understand his own feeling and thoughts, this is also a request, because if a Fe user put his things on the table to be understanded, is an invitation for others to do the same. Another thing is the constant, permanent question in mind "am i doing it right?" or "does this make any sense?", for an high Fe user is more like "am i right in this situation?" "I'm reacting in the right way?".
Te/Fi this is more difficult to understand because i can watch this only with an external eye, but basically: is about factual realities, even Fi. A Te user tends to concentrate more on the pragmatic applications of things, he can enjoy explanations and more deep arguments as well, but he doesn't consider it so important in a practical way. He does the same with his feelings, a Fi user is a little unaware of the general vibe in a room: if an introverted Fe can find suffocating make contacts with other people in a party, he's still absorbing the general feelings in the room, and that's enough to be "happy" or simply to get a good mood, ot the other hand an Fi user can have hard times, he can understand via Te that the others are having a good time in that room as a matter of observable fact, so, if he's good at socializing he can probably be one of the happier persons in the room, if not, the general mood isn't enough to make him feel better, so he tries to do something that makes him feel better, or he tries accumulate tension until he risks to explode (I've seen it happen with a Fi lead acquaintance) basically because he is more concetrated in what he's actually feeling in that particular moment, it became a loop: "..i'm not feeling good, the others are having a good moment and i'm not feeling good..." because he rechecks constantly what he's actually feeling in that particular moment. This is why sometimes FiNe don't feel completely understood, they consider their feelings a matter of fact that the others are incapable to fully understand.
with the perceiving funtions for the moment i don't have any constructive thought, so in the future i'll write some more.
(yeee this is my 100th post
)
