Post by bera on Dec 27, 2018 11:48:45 GMT -5
There might be some connections between tarot and CT and I would like to explore them a little. <3 I'm not sure if there were other topics about it; I didn't see any but I may be wrong.
I thought about mentioning this on Discord but I can't login; I don't know what happened, I hope I didn't get banned.
So, first of all, as probably all know, in tarot we have 4 suits. And one could correpond to N, one to S, one to F and one to T. But maybe they could correpond better to Pe, Ji, Je and Pi. I'm not sure, I think certain images can mean more than one thing and can be integrated in different ways in a general sheme.
Anyway, I will just use the Aces for exemplification :
1. Wands
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/wands01.jpg
I'd say N. N is described here as - Extrapolative Abstract Surreal And Wands are the correspondent of Fire, so I think fire would be the closest to extrapolative, abstract, surreal. It is used in some cultures to predict the future and it projects shadows on walls and by seeing the shadows you can assume/predict/imagine what they might represent. So, Wands - N.
2. Pentacles
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/pents01.jpg
Pentacles - S. The tangible and the literal information processing. Pentacles are actually coins and the cute thing about them is that they have a pentacle engraved on them, which reminds about Se-Ni being together on an axis. Or of Ne-Si.
3. Cups
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/cups01.jpg
Cups - F. I don't think this one needs a more detailed explanation, the Ace of Cups represents the heart and all the Cups cards are somehow related to relationships between people or ethical issues.
4. Swords
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/swords01.jpg
Swords = T.
T - Abiotic Logical Dissociated - and of course, Swords are generally associated with logic but I think the abiotic part is also pretty obvious in this card compared to the Ace of Cups card. Also, cutting things could be seen as meaning a dissociation.
Now, there is something even more fascinating : as we have 4 suits and 4 court cards in each suit, which basically represent real people in your life, there are 16 court cards in tarot !!! I can't determine an exact association between them and the types but maybe it could be determined. Or you could just take all the Kings and Queens and combine them together to show someone's first two functions.
I personally don't know if there is anything supernatural in this (or generally in anything ) but the coincidence is interesting, so maybe when tarot was created, people actually subconcsiously knew there are 4 (or well, you can have 8 also - you can reverse cards) functions and 16 types??
Also a lot of the imagery used on this site is quite similar to the one used in tarot. Above I was talking about the minor arcana but the major arcana also can be connected to some CT themes. In tarot there is the Emperor and the Empress; also there is the Fool - pretty much a Pe card and the Hermit, who looks like an Pi character to me. The Hanged Man pretty much reminds also of Pi, maybe Ni. The Chariot gives more of a Je vibe. The Devil could be representing repressed functions and the following cards how to bring them up to consciousness. (the Tower, the Star, the Moon, the Sun, Judgement, the World - a succession of states to awaken functions maybe?? I mean, when reading Jung (a very very long time ago), I did think they were related to individuation but right now I can't remember the process he wrote about and I'm not sure that I would claim the same at this point).
Also, the World could simply relate to P and Judgement to J.
Does anyone else here also use tarot? Or other divination systems? What do you think ?
I thought about mentioning this on Discord but I can't login; I don't know what happened, I hope I didn't get banned.
So, first of all, as probably all know, in tarot we have 4 suits. And one could correpond to N, one to S, one to F and one to T. But maybe they could correpond better to Pe, Ji, Je and Pi. I'm not sure, I think certain images can mean more than one thing and can be integrated in different ways in a general sheme.
Anyway, I will just use the Aces for exemplification :
1. Wands
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/wands01.jpg
I'd say N. N is described here as - Extrapolative Abstract Surreal And Wands are the correspondent of Fire, so I think fire would be the closest to extrapolative, abstract, surreal. It is used in some cultures to predict the future and it projects shadows on walls and by seeing the shadows you can assume/predict/imagine what they might represent. So, Wands - N.
2. Pentacles
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/pents01.jpg
Pentacles - S. The tangible and the literal information processing. Pentacles are actually coins and the cute thing about them is that they have a pentacle engraved on them, which reminds about Se-Ni being together on an axis. Or of Ne-Si.
3. Cups
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/cups01.jpg
Cups - F. I don't think this one needs a more detailed explanation, the Ace of Cups represents the heart and all the Cups cards are somehow related to relationships between people or ethical issues.
4. Swords
www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/swords01.jpg
Swords = T.
T - Abiotic Logical Dissociated - and of course, Swords are generally associated with logic but I think the abiotic part is also pretty obvious in this card compared to the Ace of Cups card. Also, cutting things could be seen as meaning a dissociation.
Now, there is something even more fascinating : as we have 4 suits and 4 court cards in each suit, which basically represent real people in your life, there are 16 court cards in tarot !!! I can't determine an exact association between them and the types but maybe it could be determined. Or you could just take all the Kings and Queens and combine them together to show someone's first two functions.
I personally don't know if there is anything supernatural in this (or generally in anything ) but the coincidence is interesting, so maybe when tarot was created, people actually subconcsiously knew there are 4 (or well, you can have 8 also - you can reverse cards) functions and 16 types??
Also a lot of the imagery used on this site is quite similar to the one used in tarot. Above I was talking about the minor arcana but the major arcana also can be connected to some CT themes. In tarot there is the Emperor and the Empress; also there is the Fool - pretty much a Pe card and the Hermit, who looks like an Pi character to me. The Hanged Man pretty much reminds also of Pi, maybe Ni. The Chariot gives more of a Je vibe. The Devil could be representing repressed functions and the following cards how to bring them up to consciousness. (the Tower, the Star, the Moon, the Sun, Judgement, the World - a succession of states to awaken functions maybe?? I mean, when reading Jung (a very very long time ago), I did think they were related to individuation but right now I can't remember the process he wrote about and I'm not sure that I would claim the same at this point).
Also, the World could simply relate to P and Judgement to J.
Does anyone else here also use tarot? Or other divination systems? What do you think ?