I really, really tried to not make another weird thread but I couldn't help it.
So, since Animal was talking about feeling drawn to tigers, I realized I also feel something similar for bears. And it struck me bears could be just a symbol of Se.
I love the idea of berserkers. People who gain the power of the bear or who turn into bears when they are in battle.
I found the cutest and weirdest bear art while playing my bear loving character and thought to share some of it. Most of it are bears & girls. I would totally make a collage but I don't know how.
Also my first thought was that Se - Ni users should be having this animal spirit thing going on but one of my friends looks like a high Si owl lover, so...
Aaaand some bear songs :
I saw Bjork is FiSe, that's interesting, I love her music. She has other bear videos too, but I thought this one is more representative.
Both songs have some erotic themes, but please bear with them until we find more spiritual ones.
More bears following because I can only attach 3 pictures in every post.
But my question is - does anyone also feel like there are animals that somehow embody a part of themselves? Because this is what a spirit animal is, right? And maybe someone wants to share experiences involving these animals, dreams or just some songs and pictures, collages, whatever you like.I found an interesting dream with a bear somewhere on FB, I will look for it (I don't believe it's real but it's a good story).
_@bera bera the bears you like seem like very protective ones (and fluffy lol). Personnaly I feel more related to foxes ; hidden forces,good talkers, elegant and subtle... What I would like to be seen as at least. Also, I think it can be linked to the trickster mythology (at least in french litterature but I suspect it's the same in other countries). Besides, they are gingers like me.
I would consider bears a more Si animal for some reason... Maybe it does represent what you are looking for in your relationships ? Not necessarly romantic ones.
I could be wrong, I feel that we are alike on the "unleashing the rage" part, like switching to battle mode when necessary
I didn't spend much time on looking for pictures (so i'm not particularly fond of the drawing style) but I hope it will help you get the idea
neon , I think foxes are a wonderful spirit animal ! <3
You are a good talker and also elegant, so this fits very well. Do you think this is somehow related to your type?
I can agree about the trickster -in Romania we view foxes as sly and a bit deceitful sometimes. But I think it would be interesting to read about them in Japanese mythology, where there are some fox characters with shapeshifting abilities : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune
I don't think bear energy is neccesarily what I seek in relationships; I think it's more a part of myself. I see bears as very strong and protective but also as brave and playful. But if you value some traits, you also tend to look for them in others, so there could be truth in what you say.
I was thinking about Se because I thought bears should represent a function I have and also they are pretty attuned to the senses (think of Winnie the Pooh's love for honey ). I gathered some bear images 2 - 3 years ago and never thought more of them but now that you guys said I'm SeFi, I thought hey, maybe the bears could represent Se and the girls Fi . It's very interesting that in some of the images the girls are sleeping in the bear's arms or close to the bear (unconscious Fi ? ) or riding the bear (because I still use Fi to take relevant decisions). There is also the one singing next to the bear. <3
I see owls as more Si or Ni, because they are wise. Also crows. And turtles. But I think everyone relates to animals for different reasons, so for example for me the bear could be Se and for you it could be Si. As a vultology if animals could have one..bears are pretty heavy looking and less mobile, so I could see this as Si actually. <3
Thank you for your compliments ! I think that Se/Fe suits the fox quite well (because Se + Fe would be a charming, cunning, fun seeking person with still a soft and calculated way of behaving), and I am probably SeTi III- (with higher Fe than Ti) so yeah that would fit my type I guess. In my studies it is a real bonus if you're a good talker so that probably helps; we always have feedbacks on the improvement we can make to our talks.
I like your interpretation of the relation between the girl and the bear being the relation between functions. I also see more clearly why you say the bears represent Se. Btw the Baloo type of bear is probably Se (at least Pe) dom.
It is also funny that you mention spirit animals now, because about a week ago I started to ask people at a party what was their totem animal (I was with staas). The answers were a bit uninteresting but it was very entertaining for me !
@elsie, OMG that lyre bird is amazing, first I thought she couldn't possibly make those sounds but it looks like she does. Is this...real? OMG ! Birds are so smart and cute !!!
I wish I could teach my cat to make machine gun sounds and then go with her on the street to shoot people like :
And regarding the bird dances...I happen to have a bear version :
neon , yes, I actually love foxes too ! But I'm not so..calculated, as you say, so I can't identify with them. Oh, you said Se and Fe - and this makes so much more sense, of course, Se and Fe - foxes ! <3
Yes, Baloo looks like an Se dom, now that you say it.
neon, yes, the trickster animals! It's such a profound archetype.
I identify with small, squirrely mammals who like cozy spaces, who store things away for winter, etc. I also identify with playful animals and lone birds of prey.
IMO, JCF must be based on something older. It makes sense to me that they're based on existing structures, structures we share with the animal kingdom. Just expanded.