Post by chaoticbrain on Jan 19, 2014 2:16:00 GMT -5
I would be inclined to think craig Roberts is SeFi. This is because he does the Se "shocked" face often, which is where the eyes are pulled to the brim of their sockets. He also completely lacks any 'trancing' quality that Ni-leads normally have. His Te is pretty apparent though.
He lacks the energy of a Pe-lead, and has inertial energy. I don't think all Ni-leads eyes seem quite as piercing. From the videos I've seen on here, it is more piercing in people with lighter-colored eyes. This is probably because it contrasts to a greater degree with the color of the pupil. Also, his eyes are very steady, lacking the consistent "darting" characteristic of Pe-leads. An NiTe will still have Se within their primary oscillation, so it is going to be visible. I just don't see Se>Ni.
Although, I may be partly swayed by his character in Submarine, who was more of a stereotypical "INTJ".
I also see that he has a rigid posture, his voice is breathy and low in volume like the one of a Ji lead, but for the moment i can't say if he's a TiSe or an FiSe. His hands are extremely... dead, and lately that has been the signal i'm relying the most in the J discernment .,.
For me he's beta-gamma j lead. I would exclude FeNi, my hypothesis are TiSe-FiSe or a really, or a really, really shy TeNi.
chaoticbrain with "dead hands" i meant that is difficult to really tell apart Fi, Te or Ti dominance from him because his hands and arms are always motionless (and also... maybe the " .,. " smiley was not so clear) And yes, i agree that FiSe is quite strange for him, if i had to go by physiognomy i would say Se lead or TeNi, but since he's so rigid and controlled in any movement he makes i think J lead is more correct, and, quite frankly i find difficult to see him as Te lead as well. So, the point here is to understand if he's an exception to the J rigidity - P flexibility rule or not. :S
I've been thinking about him for a while yesterday and today, i'm starting again to lean toward the TiSe hypothesis. The only thing that makes me unsure is that i'm relying much more on the "vibe" than the actual exposition of signals. The only evident things are the J lead and the NiSe perception pair. I don't see many signals of Ti "leadeness", not even Fi or Te (like i said, i would prior exclude Fe lead, even if now i find very unlikely for him to be a Te lead too). So, this time i'm relying very much on the vibe i sense and the shape of his face. chaoticbrain where do you see his Fi exactly? I think the only signal that could pass of Fi is the tension around the mouth, but as we saw recently some betas displayed a great amount of tension, but with no snarl, like i think is its case. In the video jason13 posted there is just one Je gesticulation, and for all the rest of the interview he remains with the hands in the pocket, or crossed. But i think i saw some very, very rare Ti puppeter hands at 2:20 and 2:43, and i think i saw something like that in other interviews, but it is very rare in every video and it lasts for no more than 2 seconds, but overall, his fingers seems pretty flexible. And about his articulation, i don't think it is not so monotonic, i do sense some kind of "melodic" quality in it, particularly in the video i posted. Similar in this way to other TiSes like David Goleman, pj harvey, brendan perry, the ones that came in my mind now.
his face is completely neutralized guys. that is not a snarl. he's just deapan Ti-lead. as I said. (i don't find time to dive deep in an explanation of what I'm seeing but I can do this later if you guys find necessary).
Last Edit: Jan 20, 2014 21:06:59 GMT -5 by Deleted