Stephen Fry - SPLIT

mimsy : this is starting to get a bit old, but I think Stephen Fry could be NeFi (very energetic, eyes up gently searching and split to the side with lot of blinking, quick deadpan articulation, fingers extended and stiff, weird mouth...)

mimsy : We are a few here (A) to wonder if one is more prone to spontaneously identify with people sharing its own type, or quadra, or functions. There is nothing inherently bad in that, as long as we are not contemptuous of others

And yes, I have encounter a lot of NeFi too, but, with all your respect, they are quite loud  

Tis interesting for sure. I have noticed being very drawn to Pe leads, but not necessarily the same functions. In fact, the two types I have the hardest time with is TeSi, and SiTe, which are supposed to be my subpolars. I also see myself getting drawn to Fe doms. I've dated a few of them, and they seem to have a good opposite effect on me, since their friendly but assertive demeanor allows me to be free to be as random as I want to be (I don't have to be in charge -- lead away). Also I've noticed that they are okay with me being more straightforward and blunt, which is weird, because they are generally considered to have more tact -- being Fe/Ti. I love the Pe leads too, because we're all over the place together. I also lean towards JiPes as well, but those relationships, I have to take more of the spot light with, because they aren't push your way through types. In fact, i have two very fulfilling relationships with FiSes. It is almost as though they remind me to check in with my Ji from time to time. As for NeFi, I honestly can't remember ever getting the pleasure of being friends with another NeFi, so maybe if there were more in my acquaintance, then I would surely prefer them over the rest. Except don't we need some sort of opposite interaction to help us be free to shine with our own functions. Yet it does make sense that everyone is looking to be validated. I still am. That's for sure! In the past, I always just wanted to hook up with someone that was okay with my abstractedness, since not many are willing to go very deep or dive into abstract theories -- an man I can't live with ought theorizing or analyzing life. So whatever type is okay with my moody, straightforwardness, and enjoys a good theoritical explorying discussion, then they are okay with me (no matter what their function order is).

Funny you say NeFi's are loud. I actually catch myself mumbling and whispering a lot, yet when I am being boisterous, then the ear plugs need to come out.

Also could Stephen Fry be NeTi instead? I see more Fe/Ti than Fi/Te.

mimsy : I have not been looking that much into it but for the moment I doubt it. It would be the closer alternative though

peppergirl : you have not been confirmed as a NeFi yet . More seriously, I say that as a common thing, this is not really part of the typing. The NeFi I know are actually really torn between being really shy and really loud (without noticing some times), so people tend to remember the loud part. About the insecurity, I believe it could be linked in this case to a Ne "naivety"/openness, but this is pure speculation. Insecurity is a human thing, every type must have some recurring flavor of it, and not necessarily due to their inescapable "shade".

peppergirl : of course it is not CT related, even I am this way some times. I just said that in my experience, it was quite common and consistent among NeFi, and maybe that it makes them quite visible in the public eye. As for naivety, I want to insist on the fact that like confidence in oneself, it can be as enlightening and original as it can be well... naive. Beside, maybe Ni-Se users are better at hiding or ignoring their insecurities