Beginner's Guide to CT

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Beginner's Guide to CT Aug 2, 2014 2:19:31 GMT -5 by A TheLogicFan, skuagrey, and 3 more like this

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Post by A on Aug 2, 2014 2:19:31 GMT -5

Hey guys, I'm not entirely sure which forum this belongs it, but I thought it might be helpful to have some general notes/FAQs up for newcomers, as we seem to regularly get some of the same sources of confusion. Plus, I'd like to contribute something and remain a pretty unreliable visual reader and this seems more up my alley. I know a lot of this information is very readily available around the forum, but I know when I first join in a forum, I like having one clear, concise thread that explains what's going on. We do have a lot of information that is a bit scattered so what I was thinking is:

1. Basic what we're doing and why
2. How to get started (submit a video)
3. Common Misconceptions/VR FAQs (what I really think we need the most, as there continues to be some mix-ups due to standard MBTI)
4. Links to important threads

Is there anything here I'm missing that anyone thinks should definitely be included? If no one wants to use this, it's fine but I figured I'll work on writing something up as I do think some newbies will benefit from having a more unified information source. Also, any questions people think should be answered or threads that should be linked? I'm pretty tired now so won't be working much on this tonight, but I'll post up the guide as I write it. I'd really love it if people would write a brief description of some of their own functions, along with some misconceptions (for example, Se and the physical senses) as when I try to write up descriptions for functions I do not have, everything I come up with really sucks.

Today's (likely bad due to said exhaustion) start- We often get complaints from new members that our readings cannot possibly be right. Generally, the member refers back to MBTI and explains why the functions we've assigned do not their personal experience. The important thing to keep in mind is that we do not subscribe to the MBTI definitions of the functions here, as we have found them a poor representation of reality and many members believe traditional MBTI types distorted stereotypes that are a poor representation of reality. For example, many people use their polar functions much more readily than usual MBTI would suggest, as the two sensing and two judging functions cooperate to produce a more complete view of reality and a SeTi could easily be more "Ni" than a FeNi. Just because you do not fit the MBTI description of the function does not mean you do not fit ours.

Here are some of the most common misconceptions we see:
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We do not use ennaegram or socionics to type either. You can certainly find some members interested in other typology methods, but, as per the wishes of Erifail and Alerith, the founders of VR and CT, CT is intended to stand alone and does not take other typings into account.

While signals can be situational, and for that reason we advise posting multiple visuals in several contexts, we find that they are generally universal within a given person. Your functions are unlikely to completely change from one video to the next. That said, you may post a video we find difficult to read, particularly if you post a rehearsed or scripted video.

You are certainly welcome to offer your criticisms. Do keep in mind CT is still in its infancy and many aspects are still being explored and debated. You will find a certain degree of skepticism is the norm here and polite, respectful debate is welcomed. So long as you practice common internet courtesy, you are welcome to cast doubt on as many of the theory's tenets as you would like. Most of us are just in this for fun and will be happy to revisit any interesting or questionable facets of CT you stumble across. What will not be tolerated is rudeness towards other forum members, including your visual readers. You are free to challenge their reads, but please do not personally attack anyone who is trying to help you. We also do not support bashing of any type. One major difference between the CT and MBTI communities is CT does not have a hierarchy of types. We do not believe any type is inherently better than any other and while some are likely less common, we do not have the statistics (or random sample) needed to determine the type breakdown of a general population. We do not link intelligence or thoughtfulness with type and believe anyone, of any CT profile, can be a deep and insightful thinker as there are many routes to truth.

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Beginner's Guide to CT Aug 2, 2014 2:56:14 GMT -5 by A Reckoner and morpheus like this

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Post by A on Aug 2, 2014 2:56:14 GMT -5

Aug 2, 2014 2:45:55 GMT -5 A said:

And this is still just blobs of text. Let's try this again, keeping in mind the purpose of this guide. Once again, just a start to a very incomplete draft but I think this is a better format. And yes, I was just reading through a thread where someone was pretty rude to their visual reader due to an MBTI entanglement issue, hence the first few questions. Some also address my own misconceptions coming in:

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I already know my MBTI type. What do I do if my VR doesn't correspond to what I know I am?

Please keep in mind that CT functions are defined differently from MBTI functions. This is possibly the number one most common complaint we get, that someone simply can't be an "ESFJ". First off, take a deep breath and calm down. Read through the forums. Look at people who are the same type as you. We tend to ignore the MBTI descriptions of the types, as they represent more (stereo)types of people rather than cognitive processes. The functional take is a bit better and a little closer to ours, but still carries a good deal of inherent bias. There's a good reason not many people are racing to identify as "sensors" and most "great thinkers" are reflexively declared intuitives. Using CT, however, we have found brilliant, visionary people in every type and quadra and have found no relationship between CT and intelligence. CT's just the hardware, it's how you use it that counts. As a forum, we believe deep, insightful thinkers can be found in any type.

Does CT work in conjunction with any other typing system?
As per the wishes of Erifail and Alerith, the founders of CT and VR, it does not. We do not take into account ennaegram, socionics or any other typology method. A CT reading should stand on its own without relying on other theories. You will find no shortage of people on here who are also interested in your personality theory of choice, but do keep in mind that CT is a discreet system. It is generally preferred for you to not share any prior typing results, including Jungian or MBTI.

I disagree with my type. What do I do?

Ultimately the decision to accept or reject a type is up to you. If after reading through this forum and understanding our view of the functions you still believe you have been mistyped, that is your prerogative. You are free to debate with the visual readers, but harassment will not be tolerated and we do ask that you keep an open mind. These people are volunteers doing this during their free time who do not need the stress of an antagonistic recipient.

What is the best way to make a CT video?

You'll find most people make videos in private, of themselves either rambling to the camera or answering a series of questions provided in one of the links below. If you can get someone to interview you or converse with you on camera, however, we often find the resulting video is more natural and easier to analyze accurately. Generally speaking, if our readers are having trouble typing you, your best bet is to post a second video as some people have subtler signals than others.

How does CT apply to real world abilities?
We have found no correlation between CT and intelligence. While certain disciplines do tend to attract specific functions, the trend generally applies to an entire quadra rather than a single type. Your CT type is merely the way you process information and is in no way linked to your mental capacity. We believe any task can be accomplished using any set of functions and most fields benefit from a variety of CT types. You should not make major life decisions based off an incomplete theory that does not profess to offer guidance or advice. Take it for what it is, an interesting way to look at the people around you that is still very much a work in progress. Don't make a religion out of CT which most of us are well aware is imperfect but getting clearer with every thread.

What is the rarest CT type?

Honestly? We don't know. We have two small and inherently biased sample sets: celebrities and forum members, neither of whom can be taken to represent the general population. Why does it matter to you? In the real world, I'd say I see a bit more Ne/Si than Ni/Se and roughly equal amounts of Fe/Ti versus Fi/Te. I am a pretty poor reader, however, and once again, have a very limited sample size I generally see very quickly, so this should be taken with an entire ocean's worth of salt.

Last Edit: Aug 2, 2014 2:59:48 GMT -5 by A

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Beginner's Guide to CT Sept 3, 2014 10:38:33 GMT -5 by morpheus

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Post by morpheus on Sept 3, 2014 10:38:33 GMT -5

Thank you for explaining the basics, i was confused about CT(ok, i'm still confused, but at least i understood the basics), i think that when the subject is human behavior and brain activity, every theory has it flaws. In MBTI my type is one of the most stereotyped, but some descriptions can be accurate, enneagram is the most confusing and socionics seems to be the most accurate, and most close to CT, anyways i think it's not right to criticize cause CT is not a finished theory yet, however, i agree with what you said about the relationship between intelligence-CT, but i also think that knowing your type can help you to develop your skills, what is your opinion? Cognitive Types is an interesting theory, i hope to help someway in it.

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