Post by At-Ease Zazeef on Nov 15, 2014 14:19:25 GMT -5
Just to give you a quick text representation, it's sort of like when the typee is thinking about an idea, maybe they're talking about it a little bit, andthenallatonceheorshefiguresoutexactlywhatheorshe'sbeentryingtosayandthefloodgatesopen. It's speaking without spaces.
Not that there needs to be a feeling out period beforehand, necessarily. Avalanches often occur as a right-off-the-bat response, particularly if the Te user is trying to clarify something, to get the sense of the thing being talked about "back on track", as he or she sees it.
Will hunt up examples of what I see it to be later.
Last Edit: Nov 15, 2014 15:27:53 GMT -5 by At-Ease Zazeef
At-Ease Zazeef, you've got a great way of communicating That makes sense to me. Another question: is this expressed more frequently by Te > Fi or does the hierarchy not matter so much?
"It is the theory that decides what we can observe" -Einstein
Post by peppergirl on Nov 15, 2014 16:07:57 GMT -5
roberts there is an example of it in the TeNi section of the Larin series video. Look at the video, the part where Robert Downey Junior talks, he avalanches and it is explained (you have to stop the video to see the text because it's very fast).
fangoriousfae, this is just me hypothesizing as i'm only a student here, but it would seem this is more a Te/Fi thing than Fe/Ti for two reasons. 1) An Fi's speech pattern tends to connect words with a continuous tonal flow, giving it the(sometimes) sassy sound. Contrast this with the Ti halting speech pattern, where all vocalization sometimes pauses between words. 2) Te's have such tremendous forward momentum as a result of their future orientation that they're always rushing ahead. It's conceivable to me that if you combine the strung together speech pattern of Fi with the thinking-out-loud and in a hurry Te you could get what is referred to as Avalanche Speech.
Last Edit: Nov 17, 2014 19:42:57 GMT -5 by roberts
"It is the theory that decides what we can observe" -Einstein
Post by At-Ease Zazeef on Nov 16, 2014 20:46:22 GMT -5
Here's the impression I get of Ti pauses vs. Te avalanche speech (which I do see as counterparts to one another, as roberts has already gotten at): With Ti pauses, it's as though the individual is walking on a bad floor and the only way to pass it without falling through is to tentatively feel out (feel out? Extraverted Feeling?!? Jk, though it is apt) whether each step will bear his or her weight before committing to it. With Te avalance speech, it's as though the Te user is presented a corridor, the floor's fine, and the Te user is quick to just barrel his or her way on to its end... but can only then evaluate whether he or she's actually wound up any closer to where he or she means to go.
Shrug. I still need to just track down some good example footage. :/
Last Edit: Nov 16, 2014 20:57:00 GMT -5 by At-Ease Zazeef
I can verify that that's exactly true of Ti. It's like the conversation will be destroyed if I accidentally miscommunicate my precise meaning. Because I know if I fall through that floor, there's yet another tricky floor, tenfold in size, that I have to cross to explain exactly where I was trying to go with the first floor. There's nothing worse than having to talk twice as much to say what you meant with half the accuracy as you think it, so I always speak with lots of pauses, build-ups, disclaimers, and appendices. Drives my dad crazy, as I'm pretty sure he's an SiTe 6. He describes himself as having a "talk box" that fills up very easily before he has to go do something else, so I tend to get not 2/3rds through my point before he pretends to fall asleep