A better quality vid and sound! Merula's Type

Hi Erifrail!
I'm glad you finally shared your point of view. Hope some others will put theirs soon.
So, for now I look being traveling between Betas and Alphas in a way..
I omited to mention that I sometimes was looking down towards my paper while answering, even though I didn't read some text doing so; that may explain why my whole face seemed more oftenly oriented into precise directions than it was within my old videos (those ones showed more rigidity, according to members). Also, I often looked at a window on my left while going like into my mind. I guess it shows perception too.
This time, I was much more into perceptive process, probably because I had no interlocutor to intimidate me, and then I was not desengaging to create an unaffected inner place to think.

Now, a good point is: Everybody there seems to really agree about me being smiling in a Fe way (both in those videos and the old ones); though I wonder if having a large mouth might give us that impression.
Could anatomy be mistaken for some facial expressions? (I've been wondering myself about such things while looking at several member videos, where one can observe certain shapes of the mouth or the brow bone, making the typing to become less easier).
I'm almost convinced, though I have being seriously typed as a Fi user in other jung inspired typologies, especially in mbti (well, I know it's different). I just sometimes suspect mbti community to create caricatures, like to expect every susceptible introvert appreciating musics, nature, and looking ideas through some movies and arts, to be a FiNe. But, at this point, I really don't know what to think anymore.


Otherwise, anything about psychology? How would you correlate facial expressions and psychology in my case?
Also, what about scowling? I was almost sure being a Si user into the old thread, though I have to remind open. Fact is, while thinking about my global attitude, I could observe as many behaviors correlated to any cognitive function. So I guess I'm still not as good as I could to interpret subtle expressions clearly .... .

Oh, and by the way, what do you think about the old members hypothesis of me being a TiNe (alt FeSi)? Does Ji lead and especially Ti lead remains too different from the whole obervation of me for some reasons? (maybe something around the eyes, I don't know ...). I mean that the members seem to estimate a preference for feeling at the first impression. Actually, the fact you did even mention NeTi as a possibily makes me think I'm definitly not encouraging a sure consensus. ..hum oki, I'm just trying to elude the uncertainties.

Ok, there are many inconsistences between old and recent observations, and I can't find link with my personnality that is sure. I thought I had some Ne-Si or Si-Ne aspects (hard to tell about Ni though I think I can sometimes identify myself with it) while not being really able to describe my judgment process.
Also I think I might be sensitive more often than a TiNe might be. It's hard to tell without possible comparison.
I can argue but it's almost like I was verbally confused inside though really affected by things and being able to react. Mmmh I do not even think I'm using the right words to describe it.
But I know my topics often are dealing with ethics and way. I'm not at ease with too much general impersonal ways concidering things so far, especially when it claims reality. It seems naïve or hypocritical to me, false at least. Seems like I especially need to find out what my perception process really is and how it affects my face (functions hierarchy, orientation).

Well, ok actualy I need to find out almost everything haha. Help help!
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I'm also reading type profils. I did not finished and I'll probably buy the whole book. But I noted some personnal and psycho-behavioral aspects within :
-maybe Grandfather NiFe
-minimalist and psychoanalyst TiNe.
-Silly-Serious SiFe.
-and even FiNe scientist, I guess.

Judgment seems not at ease.

@hi Authenticity! Thank you for your point of view.

Great explanation! Yeah, I think what you are describing is precisely what I call the NiFe's "apple cheeks" rising up the flatness of Ti (applicable also to all high Fe types). They're described in the NiFe profile as:



Here's a graphic which I hope can help:


It's tricky to 100% guarantee this is the look of Fe and Fi types, respectively, because of how many face types there are, but I see more of the Fe apple cheeks effect in yours -- due to the lack of the depressor muscle pulling and also combined holistically with everything else about your demeanor, way of speaking ("grandfatherly") and your far more Fe energy.

Taking a second look at your videos, I see more and more the NiFe demeanor.

Chose promise, chose due, merula !

To start with, I would like to thank you for putting so much effort in capturing and editing your material, with subtitles and all. Having both languages on display allows us to single out any potential gap in mannerism, due to practice or nerves, without sacrificing the content.

As pointed out by Auburn , the NiFe assessment seems to be the most appropriate. Rather than doubling on the great insight which has been provided, including from Aqua , I will try to add some relevant infos, and address the puzzling aspects. Although, if something still needs clarifying, feel free to ask any follow up question.

The precedence of the eyes can be easily seen when breaking down the video, but it is also factored in the way you lean forward, instead of keeping a more rigid and distant body, as suggested in the following graph from the book (p43), or in the website article on Charles Dance (figure 4).




Likewise, your gesticulation appears not so much restrained, as quick and sloppy, as if your arm was getting limp (see first video 3:04). This indicates that your energy, while recessive, is left to inertia. Your voice is low, and you tend to mumble a little, which could be the equivalent in speech. Therefore, Je, and to a less extent Ji, should be secondary processes. 

Furthermore, your demeanor has what we call a "qualia" or overall impression of "conductive energy", favored by PiJe (and JePi) types. Instead of deflecting the information which is coming at you, you put your effort toward formulating your line of thought, in a subdued, but continuous way. Notes contribute to this, but they may also indicate that the process is intricate and needs rehearsal.

Determining the judgement pairing is again a straightforward step. Despite a lack of tension around the upper lip, as most of the contraction is happening on the sides, even as you talk, a variety of emotional swells and micro-expressions are conveyed through your face. This indicates a prevalent and even quite pronounced Fe, as we might elaborate later, and can be contrasted with the monotony of prevalent Ti users like Gabby Douglas (see last illustration of the post). While less distinctive, we can also factor in the multiple "disclaimers" you deliver to anticipate your audience in the beginning and along the video, and some of the polite smiles to fill in blanks.



As should be expected, most of the scowls are supporting this assumption, as we can clearly see the intensity being held, if not strengthened.



Beside, if you are concerned by the fact that your brow behaves according to a Si pattern when outdoors, it is in fact natural and irrelevant. As reported in the book (p59 and p106), concentrated scowls are emulating the primitive protection from sunlight needed to adjust vision. In that case, or in the case of candid emotions, it is not indicative of memory recall or "worldview".

From there, if we were to approach the psychological side of expression, I would say your testimony is quite consistant with this typical outlook. At least, if you allow me to extrapolate from your interview.

Thanks to your lengthy answer about your personal philosophy (starting 9:42), we get a congruent presentation of a global and intricate worldview, or "complex mix", summarized almost exclusively by abstract if not undefined terms ("subjective", "objective", "world", "language", "culture", etc), and only the promise of specifics. In accordance with introverted perception, it is "flexible" and receptive toward the "subjective reality" and its "creativity". Elements are causally interconnected ("everything is connected", "everything affects everything"), whether it is the general subject and the object ("We makes reality that makes us") or more defined occurrences. Life experiences are primarily oriented toward "observation" and "reflection" ("I started thinking about the meaning of the end of love").

This leads us into the second part of the answer, which consists in the ethics. Personal relationships are considered through the perspective of collective equilibrium ("to not exclude"), which implies responsibility and respect, presumably over personal, sometimes disruptive feelings. You suggest that the strongest aspect of the relationship is "reconciliation", which on one hand supports the fact that Fe should be more adaptive than directive in modality, and that it may serve as a vehicle for a cohesive worldview. In fact, we might guess the residual prevalence of Ni holistic synthesis in the way you aspire to a somewhat paradoxical "symbiosis" between autonomy and "service". However, this does not undermine and perhaps even accentuate the pressure of the judgement process, as all causality is not deemed tolerable, with an explicitly stated and perceptible frustration toward "injustice" or misbehavior in conversation (see below), and a human ideal of diplomacy. This indicates a strong ego identification to Fe, which correlates with the "contentious visionary" shade (see link and link, and the corresponding section of the book p182).


We did not report many signs of Ti during the assessment, and even if it is symptomatic, as you do not really display the demeanor nor the philosophy of a heavy Ti user, it is undoubtedly present. There is a preference  for exact vocabulary, and some self-defined rationals which substitute for objective measurement (like the idea that it would be irrational not to believe in undiscovered influences, or that conspiracy theories are self-contradictory).

As with vultology, perhaps the most interesting aspect of your cognition is the use of Se. Indeed, in accordance with the Pe-Explorer signals, the peeling of your eyelid could mean that your use is also quite pronounced. Even though we do not see an overarching pattern of body-swaying and momentum, you regularly manifest small but energetic impulses, like a nervous jolt (for example at 9:38), which can be found to a greater extent in strong Se users. Like Ni, Se is a perception process, and thus is not always easy to articulate, but you suggest some possibilities which may ultimately refer to it. You mention great sensitivity, which is a form of input, and imagination, which is about half of the explorable world. Your enthusiasm about flying also conveys a receptivity toward the senses. More so, your answers to the questions are linear, and you do not seem to rely on brainstorming, preferring to elude an uninspiring question and "get forward" instead of coming with more possibilities, or readjusting your worldview. Eventually, this does not prevent you from being very curious and prolific.

My conclusion, from this partial glimpse, is thus of a NiFe with heavy Fe and Se. This does not mean that Ni is not prevalent, and you actually manifest a very self-aware, if not identified as such, worldview of Ni, but your personality has comparable incentives from Fe and Se.