I'm leaning towards NiTe for her as well. I don't see any Si scowls. Also, her eyes have a hypnotic quality, and are very steady with some zoning out to the sides.
She was typed as FeSi on the pinterest board. Giving a quick look at her, I see her as having very interpersonal wide smiles, Ti neutralizations, rigid posture, strong Je gestures. So to me the typing makes sense.
Hmmmm.... I can easily see her as an Fe/Ti user. Her judging functions aren't that apparent in that video. I'm not seeing Si/Ne in this video. I was actually thinking that she had the softer Ni eyes that NiFes and FeNis tend to have. I'm not sure about J-lead or P-lead. I'm leaning towards P-lead because she has more of an eye-centric face. Her eyes often lead her head to the side in a way that doesn't contribute to her articulation. Also, she doesn't make very strong pushes (see Hugh Jackman for an example of strong Fe warm pushes). I'm thinking NiJe (alt. JeNi).
I've been watching some more videos of her. I found this:
It appears that she has had her face surgically altered. Now I know why I don't see any scowls (although there is some very subtle scowling at times that I can't identify as Ni or Si). I've noticed that most Si>Ne users have a permascowl (once again, see Hugh Jackman for an extreme example) by the time their middle aged. I think that makeup can conceal these signals to some extent, but plastic surgery can make them almost non-existent. It's something to be aware of.
Anyway, I am actually now convinced that she is a TeSi (alt. TeNi). I've noticed a monotone voice, snippy headnods, and broad gesticulation. She does seem to have the elegant presentation of an Fe-lead, but that can be learned. I remembered this thread: cognitivetype.boards.net/thread/22/subtle-differences-te-women-femininity. Many women with high Te try to act like that, probably because they think it's how people want to see women act.
Here's a good video:
Notice that she avoids falling into avalanching speech, but that it comes across as calculated and unnatural.
Yeah... I don't really notice things that subtle. Her eyes do seem to have a "searching" quality to them during those scowls. I usually look for the two vertical lines in the center of the brow first, then look for the "searching" or a slowing or pause in speech. Her plastic surgery seems to have covered up the lines... So, I agree with you about that.
People can train themselves (if they care enough) to smile the right way at the right moments. The cheeks may have been affected by plastic surgery. I'm not sure about the reliabity of the finger movements. I just think that, like Selena Gomez and Miley Cyrus, many of the Fe signals seem unnatural and premeditated.
That's why i typed her FeSi (with SiFe for bruce willis) and pinned her in pinterest, i think that many of her signals are a combination of her being FeSi and probably a 2 in the enneagram. i'll make a list of the signals: At first, you can see that schizophrenic look with eyes wide open and in the same time squeezed that many, many FeSi present quite clearly, see: Ana Furtado, Jurgen Prochnow, Kevin Costner, Jeff Bridges, Claudia Schiffer, Daniel Camillo, Bérénice Béjo, Rachel McAdams... You can see them there, as Chaoticbrain said:
Then 0:15 she has a completely fake Fe smile while pointing her face toward Willis, and she keeps going on until she probably thinks "oh ok, no one is laughing with me there)" and at 0:19 her face neutralizes extremely quickly to a completely relaxed state, and even the tone of voice suddenly is changed. At 0:18 she raises her left hand up, and you can see that it is relaxed, with no sign of stiffness, the wrist remains firm though. 1:15 she does that fake laughter again, while looking at willis, and he actually grins a little bit, and she thinks that is a signal to fake the smile for a bit more, and she starts to lock on the interviewer (that smile is Fe and clearly faked) but at 1:19 the smile, again, becomes quite "dead", even if more slowly than the other. 1:48 another smile, that is not spontaneous (with a "manic Fe Glare"? Seriously i think that this signal should be separated for FeSis), and in fact it neutralizes again extremely quickly. Oh well, i could go even deeper, but i still didn't had breackfast, so i stop there.
jason13 I think that is really possible that she undergone under medical treatment for making herself younger, i don't think she had surgical treatment anyway, more probably she used botox and substances like this to have a clearer, pulled and younger skin. So, the tension around the face, should be very promiment and even exagerated (like in TiNe Emmanuelle Beart), that's not her case. Her face remains completely tensionless around the mouth, so this is a sign of: no surgery, no Fi (nomartininoparty). And even IN the mouth, there is no "paralyzation", she moves her mouth without problems and naturally. Anyway, you can easily tell apart the smile of FeSi and TeSi women of this kind: See, she has an orizzontal wide smile without tension around the mouth, the other two... just the opposite, and that is a clear sign of Fi polar against Fe dominant.
Notice that she avoids falling into avalanching speech, but that it comes across as calculated and unnatural.
This is not something you can block from my experience, when you're a Te lead, when it comes, it comes, and you can't do nothing to stop that, the only way to do so is that someone has to stop you, and in many cases when it happens, Te leads are quite dissapointed because interrupted in the middle of the talk. They can't stop that because that's the way they think, while talking, and is something that me, as a Ti user, is simply impossible to do.
I've noticed a monotone voice, snippy headnods, and broad gesticulation.
Naaaaaaah, her voice is not monotonic. And, lately we've been noticing that Fe users can show some sort of snippiness in their gesticulation, but if you take in account all the signals you got from a person, that becomes quite secondary. Sometimes more signals are more determinant than others, sometimes the hands make you say "oh, that's Ti", some other times "oh, that smile is clearly Fi", so it just depends in cases. Oh, and, really, the difference between Fe gesticulation and Te is very subtle, they can be broad, chop like, karate style as you want, and you can say "Fe/Te is surely heavy here", you can tell apart a big difference only when a person is making Ji gestures.
Manic Fe Glare totally agree for the above case! When I saw it in a video of mine, I remember thinking: "My God, I look like a crazy person!"
How sold are you on this being exclusive to FeSi? It crosses my mind that the look would not seem completely out of context for NeTi also, and I wouldnt be shocked if it was possible across the alpha quadrent (though I admittedly have no examples to back that thought up, it just seems plausible somehow)
I would love to hear your thoughts on the topic! Dont feel like you have to go find 100 examples or make a case or anything (not intentionally trying to create extra work, you've obviously got your hands full with several awesome CT projects!)
I am starting to come around to FeSi. My main reservation with her is that her Je-lead signals are much more subdued than the other examples that I've seen. I thought this might be because she was trying to restrain Te articulation, like the examples from the other thread. It's possible that she gets nervous on camera or that she just has a more subdued personality than most people of her type.
from my experience, when you're a Te lead, when it comes, it comes, and you can't do nothing to stop that, the only way to do so is that someone has to stop you, and in many cases when it happens, Te leads are quite dissapointed because interrupted in the middle of the talk. They can't stop that because that's the way they think, while talking, and is something that me, as a Ti user, is simply impossible to do.
totally agree for the above case! When I saw it in a video of mine, I remember thinking: "My God, I look like a crazy person!"