NFGeeks

Very interesting thread! You know, since learning about CT I have been thinking a lot about my parents' type. For a while now I have been entertaining the fact that my dad might actually be TeNi and he physically looks a lot like Mike, their faces are very similar, despite that my dad is asian. The creases by their nose, the creases between their eyebrows.

In the "Ask Dr. Mike" video, Mike sure does a lot of Ni-scowling as he talks. Especially at 5:03min and onwards. This reminds me a lot of my father. Doesn't constant Ni-scowling point more towards SeFi and TeNi?

I have been getting confused by Te-lead's voices lately and thinking they sound more soft than what I thought a Te-lead voice would be. But my rationalization is that with a lot of Fi, a Te-lead's voice sounds less harsh. So Te-leads with heavy Fi sound different than stereotypical Te-leads. And when I mute Mike's videos, I think it is possible how his whole body language still appears like a TeNi. If Santa TeNi ever catches on, that is what shade of TeNi my dad would fit...unless he is angry, then all the force of Te comes through and it gets scary. lol.

I have noticed Fe-leads can have stiff hands/wrists too, but I wonder if it only shows when they are trying to drive home a point. I am not sure about this, but I am just wondering if their hands ONLY clench up/tighten when their Fe push comes through, like Fe-exacting hand movements. Like for Oprah...you can see in her face the Fe-push to her words, while the hands come down:




While Te hands, with their stiff wrists, seem to be tight throughout. They are used in even casual conversation, to help explain things. They may also be used to drive home a point (even accompanied by a swell in the voice--see below for more info of why I think Te-leads can have swell in their voice) but what is different is that even in a relaxed state, their hands can be moving about in a Te-way.



 (Victor Frankl...suspected TeNi. I thought he might be Fe because his voice also has a lot of swell to it, when he makes a point. But he has lots of Ni-scowling and lots of blunt eyebrow raises, which made me believe TeNi.)

 (Ni-scowling and blunt Te eyebrow raises)

 (Te hands and Ni-scowling, I also thought Zachary Levi might be Fe because of his voice, it sounded too soft for a Te lead and he is very smiley, cheerful, and warm like I thought Fe would be, but his heavy Te signals and Ni-scowling convince me he is TeNi, too.)
 (I thought he had an Fe smile, wide, but now I consider it to be Fi since it rises up to his nose so much. Also, the way his eyes "participate" in the smile, seems J-lead.)

 (these gifs that TheLogicFan posted show Fi to me, also. And the way his smile "reaches" his eyes especially with his eyes getting super tiny, seem like J-lead smiles.)

Now I read that hand movements might not be the most reliable signal because they can be altered. I can only imagine how some types of people can be criticized for talking with their hands too much (so they limit it) or not talking with their hands enough (so they try to copy other people's hand motions). I took a Public Speaking class and I can remember all the criticisms that students would get about their hands. But I also remember a lot of criticisms with "voice" too. I think it is very possible that Te-leads can be criticized, from an early start, for being "monotone". And in my Public Speaking class, it was often emphasized to put a "swell" into your words to relay an impact. It is almost like they wanted us all to be Fe-leads when we speak. I think my speeches were so successful because I could add that "swell" easily, since I am already an Fe user. I can imagine that some Te-leads might start to consciously work on adding a "swell" to their voice in order to help relay impact to their words (especially Te-leads who are wanting to teach). So that is just my theory of why Te-leads can have an Fe-like swell to their voice, but not be Fe at all. Because Victor Frankl had a lot of swell to his voice, which lead me to think he might be Fe and so does Mike (I didn't verify, but has Mike ever been a teacher? haha. well he is in front of a chalkboard in that gif.). Anyways, I am just saying that "voice swelling" can be learned behavior. Especially for people whose career depends on their voices (teachers, actors, etc). 

Anyways, I am REALLY interested in TeNi because I now think that is what my Dad is, so the more examples of TeNi, the better for me to help clarify the different shades.

Because I don't think my dad is typical TeNi either. I really thought he was a "feeler" type all these years, but now that I found I was a "thinker" type, my whole perspective has changed about how "soft and emotional and feeling " thinker types can be. But at the same time, it also explains some of the Te blunt criticisms that he could come up with which would me feel bad. haha.